why would a velsharoonite do it either? or a lolthite?

they do because it is common courtesy and the expected OOC manners.

Because some elements of PnP rules and lore cannot be translated over to NWN without losing any form of fun, or fairness with other groups.

Playing the head of the Tempurian Order, I can tell you we have had a number of players who's characters have been Perma-killed while fighting for the glory of Tempus. But I outright refuse to make members perma-kill their characters. Espically when it's not a server standard. It would make running the faction impossible on Amia, and also make it extremely unfair when other factions and worshippers of dieties can do it.

Furthermore, dying in battle is not the point of being a Tempurian. Fighting with honour and skill is. If dying in battle was the point it wouldn't be one of the biggest religious orders in Faerun, and Tempus wouldn't be one of the most well known gods, nor a greater deity. As most of his worshippers would be dead as doornails. Yes when someone dies in battle they are taken to the hall of Tempus, if they are faithful of his. But it is not the point. Other gods have similar practices where they take their faithful to some place, but it is not the point for them.

Finally. PvP more often than not, is usually not death, but near death. Sacrafical/Inquistion based stuff is another thing entirely, which personally I'd never engage in unless I wanted my character to be perma-killed. Dying Hunting is considered near death to from what I understand, not actual death.

And a Kelly's very purpose is keeping the dead, dead.. I'm looking for more.. in-character reasons to make sense of it.. heh

A Tempuran might be raised because while they died in battle, it is very likely there is a more important battle that they needed to go fight (and maybe die) in. There's also deaths not due to battle.

Kelemvorites are all about death... at the being's appointed natural time. Some Kelemvorites might not, of course, on your basis, but some might as well, in some cases, seeing perhaps the murder of a child as an affront to their life potential and raise them as a nod that their life was cut unnaturally short..

You could make an argument that no mortal should be so presumtuous as to assume whose life has been cut short and when since it could have been in elemvor's plan for them to die then, but yeah.

You could make an argument that no mortal should be so presumtuous as to assume whose life has been cut short and when since it could have been in elemvor's plan for them to die then, but yeah.

At which point the Raise dead from the Cleric of Kelemvor shouldn't work, seems simple enough to me.

You could make an argument that no mortal should be so presumtuous as to assume whose life has been cut short and when since it could have been in elemvor's plan for them to die then, but yeah.

Sure we could, but we won't.

RPly say that the spell would have failed to be cast, if Kelemvor wanted them to die at that time. Since as a cleric, it's from him you get your spells.

Bonkering up his plans = fallen or failed spell.

It's always what I've done when my kelemvorite raised someone. Did a short IC prayer/petition for kelemvor to bring the person back, if they were taken before their time before casting the spell. Works fine IC, for me at least.

Thumbs up to this. Seems very reasonable.

Even though Yurell is a silly git and no one reads his posts, I'm not him.

I have empirical evidence to show that they do >.>

Ooo. People are still talking in here.. hah. Yay!

It's okay. I'd read Yurell's proof.

You silly silly person.