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Author:  TeroSNS [ Mon, Mar 15 2010, 19:25 PM ]
Post subject:  Familiar speech?
so I want to ask which familiars are able to speak, and which are not.
In PnP, raven familiar can speak, is it okay in here too?
Author:  Herra Tutteri [ Mon, Mar 15 2010, 19:27 PM ]
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My sorcerer's worm speaks Japanese.

EDIT: Guess I should say something smart here, too...

Frankly, I think it's about what the player wants. I've seen every damn form of familiar speak on Amia and I haven't really bothered to question that. I suppose it's what you think is even somewhat logical.
Author:  Sin4given [ Mon, Mar 15 2010, 19:31 PM ]
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Herra Tutteri wrote:
My sorcerer's worm speaks Japanese.


....Don't know what to say to that O.o

As for familiars, I think the Pseudodragon can and the Eyeball, since it's a beholder like familair, I'd think it can speak Telepathically with the master? The pixie can and the Faeriedragon I'd think could.

Think that's all...I don't know fully though :)
Author:  AlphaWaves [ Mon, Mar 15 2010, 19:31 PM ]
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How I played it with another group in PnP, familiars can't speak out loud if the base animal wouldn't, say a dog or cat. But fey and dragons, yea.

They can speak with their master via sort of link magically. I think they gain abilities to speak as they gain levels, but my memory is foggy.

As for NWN, though, I think they can all speak. Considered "magical", so a panther familiar is no normal panther.
Author:  Dark Immolation [ Mon, Mar 15 2010, 19:54 PM ]
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IIRC, all familiars have a telepathic(or at least empathic) link to their master. So if a familiar can physically "speak" to its master doesn't really matter, in as much as it wouldn't have to.

As far as talking to other people, I'd imagine any familiar barring "natural" animals could learn some basic common. Imps, Mephits and Pixies for example all speak another language by default; Infernal, the Elemental Languages, and Sylvan, respectively. An exception to the "natural" animal thing would be the Raven, which in PnP can speak Common.

But that's just my take on it. Every familiar is a magical creature by virtue of the fact they are a familiar. I don't see why any particular one really couldn't.

In addition, in my RP, I've had my PC speak through his familiar. When this happens, the familiar enters a trance-like state, like the PC does when possessing the familiar, and the PC's voice comes out instead of the familiar's.
Author:  -Cloak-and-Dagger- [ Mon, Mar 15 2010, 20:00 PM ]
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By default, AFAIK only the Imp, Mephits, and Pixie can talk. Also Faerie Dragon and Eyeball, possibly, but I don't know for sure. I don't think the others can, unless you want to houserule it for Pseudodragon to make up for its usual method of communication (telepathy) being a bit of a no-no.

Whether being a familiar changes their ability to talk? I dont know. There's probably some spell in some book somewhere like there is for every other problem a mage ever had.
Author:  Jes [ Mon, Mar 15 2010, 20:03 PM ]
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I would think anything with the natural means to speak can speak. That includes the dragon-type familiars, since dragons can speak. At the same time, I'm pretty sure they can also speak with their masters through a mental bond, since they are really just an extension of themselves. It's why when the familiar dies, the caster is harmed.

That's just my take on it, though.
Author:  Dwagin [ Mon, Mar 15 2010, 20:28 PM ]
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Pseudo-dragons speak Common and Sylvan.

Ravens can also speak.
Author:  Gunz [ Mon, Mar 15 2010, 22:46 PM ]
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Herra Tutteri wrote:
My sorcerer's worm speaks Japanese.


Japanese isn't an FR language, silly stumpy! It would be Han or Kao Te Shou. Those are the root Wa languages, which is the Japan wannabe of FR.

As for the familiars, if it's able to speak languages on it's own, it can speak as a familiar. That's my rule of thumb.
Author:  Hexx_stonebeard [ Tue, Mar 16 2010, 0:47 AM ]
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I would explain the raven's ability as a "smart Mimic" basically, the raven would communicate in "memorized" short 1 word answers. No,yes,danger, and the like. Bt again that is only my take on it.
Author:  blackvswhite [ Tue, Mar 16 2010, 0:48 AM ]
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you can do whatever you want, really, but talking animals make me cringe, both familiars and shifters, no matter how you rationalize it. I don't want to become a redwall character.
Author:  Dark Immolation [ Tue, Mar 16 2010, 1:48 AM ]
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Hexx_stonebeard wrote:
I would explain the raven's ability as a "smart Mimic" basically, the raven would communicate in "memorized" short 1 word answers. No,yes,danger, and the like. Bt again that is only my take on it.


You forgot, "Nevermore". :wink:
Author:  Gunz [ Tue, Mar 16 2010, 3:14 AM ]
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blackvswhite wrote:
you can do whatever you want, really, but talking animals make me cringe, both familiars and shifters, no matter how you rationalize it. I don't want to become a redwall character.


PC's shifted into animals can't talk anyway. There's also no such thing as "cat", "wolf" or "animal" as languages. That is all. ::takes a bow and exits::
Author:  Herra Tutteri [ Tue, Mar 16 2010, 11:08 AM ]
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o0GuNz_N_RoSeZ0o wrote:
Herra Tutteri wrote:
My sorcerer's worm speaks Japanese.


Japanese isn't an FR language, silly stumpy! It would be Han or Kao Te Shou. Those are the root Wa languages, which is the Japan wannabe of FR.


Har har, some facts:

1. I hate that Kara-Turan crap people thought was awesome a couple of years ago. Every time I saw someone type "konichiwa!" (or that) I wanted to cry blood.

2. I don't play sorcerers, wizards, rogues or anything similar. Melee fighters, clerics, paladins are OK. Don't like magisters that much, I find them rather dull for some reason. I understand a lot of people think quite the opposite.
Author:  Selvec Darkon [ Tue, Mar 16 2010, 11:11 AM ]
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Herra Tutteri wrote:
o0GuNz_N_RoSeZ0o wrote:
Herra Tutteri wrote:
My sorcerer's worm speaks Japanese.


Japanese isn't an FR language, silly stumpy! It would be Han or Kao Te Shou. Those are the root Wa languages, which is the Japan wannabe of FR.


Har har, some facts:

1. I hate that Kara-Turan crap people thought was awesome a couple of years ago. Every time I saw someone type "konichiwa!" (or that) I wanted to cry blood.

2. I don't play sorcerers, wizards, rogues or anything similar. Melee fighters, clerics, paladins are OK. Don't like magisters that much, I find them rather dull for some reason. I understand a lot of people think quite the opposite.


Herra, how can you say you don't like Kara-Turan mages? Ming the Merciless man! Ming the Merciless!
Author:  Dwagin [ Tue, Mar 16 2010, 11:20 AM ]
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Some opinions, particularly when disrespecting fellow players RP should be kept to yourself.
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