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Amia specific Shifter forms and the Underdark
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Author:  The Incognitos [ Tue, Mar 09 2010, 0:36 AM ]
Post subject:  Amia specific Shifter forms and the Underdark
How can I get access to these forms being an Underdark specific PC? I would really like to get them but it doesn't feel 'right' to sneak up to the surface for something my PC couldn't know about.
Author:  belgianbonzai [ Wed, Mar 10 2010, 9:06 AM ]
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"meet" a shifter that knows the forms and that "happens" to pass in the underdark. RP learning his shapes, screenshot and send to DM or ask a DM to supervise.

ask a DM in game, if they have the time and the mood they will give you a mini-quest (like for the DM-given only shapes)

not:
you don't see the forms in the underdark so you can not learn them.
I know this doesnt cross over to the standard shape learning but custom stuff is just custom and sometimes subject to different rules. (ie: DC request spells for example that cannot be learned by all mages, where the standard spells just pop in )
Author:  Gunz [ Wed, Mar 10 2010, 10:24 AM ]
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belgianbonzai wrote:
you don't see the forms in the underdark so you can not learn them.


This is pretty much it right here. A shifter learns his shapes by watching and studying the shapes.
Author:  TormakSaber [ Wed, Mar 10 2010, 10:35 AM ]
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There mist be some suspense of disbelief on Amia: You recieve 5 wyrmling colors at shifter one but probably have not met them. There's nowhere on Amia to fight a gargoyle but you get it at shifter 3. I defy anyone to tell me they've fought an Azer, or a Risen Lord, or a Demoflesh Golem, or a non UD character turning into a Drow, Drider, or fighting a Basilisk, or turning into a Rakshasa....
Author:  soundofastream [ Wed, Mar 10 2010, 11:04 AM ]
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DM should simply oversee your roleplay for it.

Plus, your God can grant you such, he's powerful enough to gift you with it and likes to play an active hand in his worshippers...
Author:  TormakSaber [ Wed, Mar 10 2010, 11:06 AM ]
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Let's not get into divine intervention outside default magic. That's DM stuff.
Author:  The Incognitos [ Wed, Mar 10 2010, 11:44 AM ]
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Well, I only intend on useing the forms available to an Underdark PC... I think that it would be reasonable to use a goblin and an ettercap.
Author:  Jehran [ Wed, Mar 10 2010, 19:01 PM ]
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TormakSaber wrote:
There mist be some suspense of disbelief on Amia: You recieve 5 wyrmling colors at shifter one but probably have not met them. There's nowhere on Amia to fight a gargoyle but you get it at shifter 3. I defy anyone to tell me they've fought an Azer, or a Risen Lord, or a Demoflesh Golem, or a non UD character turning into a Drow, Drider, or fighting a Basilisk, or turning into a Rakshasa....


Well there is a gargoyle in Darkhold (at least its a gargoyle model).

The Good Summon Creature IX is an Azer and it never says you have to fight it only study it.

Drow are numerous enough on the surface to be able to study them.

There are Drider spawns in the underdark in a pretty low-level area where you could study them.

The others aren't there as far as I'm aware.
Author:  TormakSaber [ Thu, Mar 11 2010, 5:00 AM ]
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It's a Shadow Demon, not a gargoyle, heh. But I think you get the idea.
Author:  Yurell [ Thu, Mar 11 2010, 5:32 AM ]
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Seeing mention of Rakshasa, that sounds like a good epic enemy (and would give shifters the ability to observe them).
Author:  Selvec Darkon [ Fri, Mar 12 2010, 3:56 AM ]
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Calin's a non-UD character and he encountered the Drider enemies in the UD <_<;;

This was before Ultrannian fell into the sea of course.
Author:  belgianbonzai [ Fri, Mar 12 2010, 17:46 PM ]
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TormakSaber wrote:
It's a Shadow Demon, not a gargoyle, heh. But I think you get the idea.


Gargoyles used to live in the skullcrags :)

Yurell wrote:
Seeing mention of Rakshasa, that sounds like a good epic enemy (and would give shifters the ability to observe them).


Raksasha could/can? be observed in zanshibon.

+ unless bless is changed (which would make shifters more powerful, and perhaps is not wanted once the change gets through) every lowbie can bless his x-bow bolts and one-shot the raksasha.
Author:  MoshingChris [ Fri, Mar 12 2010, 18:26 PM ]
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Its bless weapon actually which means only Paladins or folks with Wands.

Death Spell Imunity would fix that aswell Belgian.

But I really don't want to add Rakshasa.
Author:  TormakSaber [ Fri, Mar 12 2010, 22:19 PM ]
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No, it's Bless.
Author:  Yurell [ Sat, Mar 13 2010, 0:55 AM ]
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MoshingChris wrote:
But I really don't want to add Rakshasa.


Can I ask why not? Or is it just their general tendency to prefer illusions to fighting?
Author:  MoshingChris [ Sat, Mar 13 2010, 1:34 AM ]
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TormakSaber wrote:
No, it's Bless.


http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Bless_weapon

http://nwn.wikia.com/wiki/Bless

Its both apparently and i just checked with Thond.
Author:  MoshingChris [ Sat, Mar 13 2010, 1:41 AM ]
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Yurell wrote:
MoshingChris wrote:
But I really don't want to add Rakshasa.


Can I ask why not? Or is it just their general tendency to prefer illusions to fighting?


Because I don't want to add another epic Boss at this point in time. No Spoilers.
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