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Author:  Dev Disco [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 10:10 AM ]
Post subject:  Finding the cause of recent connection issues
Not sure where to start, but let's start here. Don't vote if you didn't update your amia.hak file (http://www.amiaworld.net/hak/amia_a.rar ).

I am looking for connection issues, not installing issues.

The first three options are if you simply don't had any substantial connection issues, and still don't have them since the hak went in.

The second trio is the interesting one. Did the HAK change you Amia experience?

The last group is basically the control group to see if it's OS connected.

I assume that no connection issues have been solved by adding the HAK, btw.
Author:  Yurell [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 11:45 AM ]
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I'll call it an issue for the sake of voting - it connects really slowly. And I mean excessively, more than even my slowest internet would dictate.
Author:  Dev Disco [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 11:48 AM ]
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Urr?
Author:  xordae [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 11:51 AM ]
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I noticed no difference at all. And I dare say that whatever difference there is can either be explained by a slow connection or computer which have to shovel a bit more data, or when it doesn't work at all, by the inability of the person to install the HAKs correctly.
Author:  Yurell [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 11:53 AM ]
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Dev Disco wrote:
Urr?


I hang at the connexion screen for about two minutes.
Author:  Gunz [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 11:55 AM ]
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I've had zero difference since it's been put in. I log in just as well as I have in the past.
Author:  Dev Disco [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 12:10 PM ]
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Yurell wrote:
Dev Disco wrote:
Urr?


I hang at the connexion screen for about two minutes.


OK, and did you have stuff like that before?
Author:  MoshingChris [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 12:40 PM ]
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No issues here either.
Author:  Yurell [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 13:00 PM ]
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Dev Disco wrote:
Yurell wrote:
Dev Disco wrote:
Urr?


I hang at the connexion screen for about two minutes.


OK, and did you have stuff like that before?


Not at all,and I'm currently on faster internet than usual.
Author:  Dev Disco [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 13:29 PM ]
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Well, I assume you did update amia_a.hak? Do you have this also when you login to Amia B? Does it happen with Direct Connecting? Did you download the test module and does it happen there as well?
Author:  Mr Mago [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 15:08 PM ]
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Since when has a HAK -ever- resulted in connecting issues? (Connecting issues other than those caused when you don't actually have the HAK, and simply can't connect at all because of that)
Author:  Riddle [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 15:14 PM ]
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o0GuNz_N_RoSeZ0o wrote:
I've had zero difference since it's been put in. I log in just as well as I have in the past.


Same.
Author:  Nekhy [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 15:18 PM ]
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Mr Mago wrote:
Since when has a HAK -ever- resulted in connecting issues? (Connecting issues other than those caused when you don't actually have the HAK, and simply can't connect at all because of that)


Code moves in mysterious ways.



OK, you're allowed to slap me for making such a nerdy joke... :oops: but I couldn't resist.
Author:  Yurell [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 15:38 PM ]
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Dev Disco wrote:
Well, I assume you did update amia_a.hak? Do you have this also when you login to Amia B? Does it happen with Direct Connecting? Did you download the test module and does it happen there as well?


I never got the test module, I did download the update for the hak, and it only happens on A, when double-clicking, direct connecting or travelling from B.
Author:  Dev Disco [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 15:47 PM ]
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Is it less when there are less people on the server?
Author:  Delarwyn [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 15:55 PM ]
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It is less when there is less people in the server for sure. Yesterday night, full server, I had mean lags, I was disconnected and I couldn't log in. Then, later when there were around 57 players. I logged and it was fine.

It is too slow to connect and somehow gamespy isn't liking me much either. I dont know if it is the Hak though. Since I installed it what two to three days ago and I only had problems last night.
Author:  Yurell [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 15:56 PM ]
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Somewhat ... down to about ten to twenty seconds, which was orma for ay time of the day.
Author:  Mr Mago [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 16:15 PM ]
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Delarwyn wrote:
It is less when there is less people in the server for sure. Yesterday night, full server, I had mean lags, I was disconnected and I couldn't log in. Then, later when there were around 57 players. I logged and it was fine.

It is too slow to connect and somehow gamespy isn't liking me much either. I dont know if it is the Hak though. Since I installed it what two to three days ago and I only had problems last night.


That one seems unrelated to the HAK, if so.

Gamespy is known to act upp occasionally. Happens to me as well, although not very often.
Author:  Sylfwe [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 16:33 PM ]
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o0GuNz_N_RoSeZ0o wrote:
I've had zero difference since it's been put in. I log in just as well as I have in the past.
Author:  Dwagin [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 22:23 PM ]
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I've had some extra crashes on login, and during gameplay. Not a constant thing, but a few, which is more than the 'none' before.

As far as 'connection'. I've not noticed any problems directly connecting except for the ocassional short term lag but there were only a couple that felt.. 'abnormal' in the past week, and those could have just been DM's doing stuff in the client for all i know.


They all seem to be triggered by nwmain.exe in itself or in ntdll.dll.
Author:  Youthanized [ Sun, Jan 31 2010, 22:40 PM ]
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No issues, never had them. *Shrugs*

I'm running XP, and it's always worked fine for me. NWN2 hasn't, but NWN1 has.
Author:  BlackDahlya [ Mon, Feb 01 2010, 3:04 AM ]
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No connection problems, but Ping was above 1000 on B, with less people on and above 2000 on A, with full server.

Also, in both servers my messages typed were sent with a delay of a couple of seconds. They didn't appear rightaway as they normally would have.

EDIT: Actually, every action taken did not happen rightaway. They all delayed a couple of seconds. Not too long to be annoying, but enough to be noticeable.

EDIT 2: Typing every letter was also delayed.

EDIT 3: The longer I stood connected, the laggier it got for me. Amia Abroad, with 28 players.

EDIT 4: I take back what I said. It got better and lag-less after some ten minutes. Might have been something on my end. -.-
Author:  Dev Disco [ Mon, Feb 01 2010, 9:13 AM ]
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I have never seen it go past about 200 ping. That suggests the server is really having troubles with something.
Author:  TormakSaber [ Mon, Feb 01 2010, 9:29 AM ]
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It's also possible it's client side issues with that instance and not the server.
Author:  Yurell [ Mon, Feb 01 2010, 9:39 AM ]
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Dev Disco wrote:
I have never seen it go past about 200 ping. That suggests the server is really having troubles with something.


Really? It's always been above that for me, and up to 800 isn't really that rare.
Author:  TormakSaber [ Mon, Feb 01 2010, 9:48 AM ]
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Australia.
Author:  FA_Frey_XC [ Mon, Feb 01 2010, 10:48 AM ]
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Dev Disco wrote:
I have never seen it go past about 200 ping. That suggests the server is really having troubles with something.


If you've not seen the servers ping go above 200, that's good.

Lower ping = less latency = better interwebz.

Ping doesn't really measure load, tho.

Done any packet captures to see what's happening?

Regards,
Author:  BlackDahlya [ Mon, Feb 01 2010, 23:15 PM ]
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TormakSaber wrote:
It's also possible it's client side issues with that instance and not the server.


Despite mentioning the Ping, I always thought it was something playerside. What scared me was that my Ping never went above 250 on A at full times and 130 on B.

If I am not too tired when I get back home, I will try connecting again to see if the Lag is still happening.

That aside, though, really no problems with the connection to GS or DC.
Author:  Yurell [ Tue, Feb 02 2010, 0:48 AM ]
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BlackDahlya wrote:
TormakSaber wrote:
It's also possible it's client side issues with that instance and not the server.


Despite mentioning the Ping, I always thought it was something playerside.

Ditto, I mentioned it because Disco seemed to think it was a problem
Author:  FA_Frey_XC [ Tue, Feb 02 2010, 3:45 AM ]
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This should be something easily determined by the server admin.

Have you contacted Magnum about this?

Regards,
Author:  BlackDahlya [ Tue, Feb 02 2010, 3:47 AM ]
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I did not have problems to connect today, even on A, with the server at 55. No lag either, yet, anyway.
Author:  Yurell [ Tue, Feb 02 2010, 3:51 AM ]
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My problem too appears to have been temporal. Must have been a coincidence that it occurred when the haks were introduced.
Author:  Dev Disco [ Tue, Feb 02 2010, 9:07 AM ]
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Well, the weekend is often a bit busier, not just for our server but also for everything in between.
Author:  Selvec Darkon [ Tue, Feb 02 2010, 17:13 PM ]
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Xp, Always have had connection issues. But thats not surprising. NWN is an old game.
Author:  Really Evil Pigeon [ Sun, Feb 07 2010, 15:04 PM ]
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Once again amia isn't showing up in my server list, what has happened?

it was fine for a bit, now it has screwed it'self again
Author:  Dev Disco [ Sun, Feb 07 2010, 21:02 PM ]
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Well, I suspect it's indeed the weekend.
Author:  Really Evil Pigeon [ Sun, Feb 07 2010, 23:59 PM ]
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hmm curious, because I see b, just not a, and a wasn't full either it was at 40 odd..
Author:  Dwagin [ Mon, Feb 08 2010, 0:54 AM ]
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Aussieland did in fact introduce the national net filter recently.
Author:  Selvec Darkon [ Mon, Feb 08 2010, 0:57 AM ]
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^

Stupid Australians. Banning Small boobs and now filtering internet. *Headshake*
Author:  Dev Disco [ Mon, Feb 08 2010, 7:53 AM ]
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It is pretty weird, especially if you can see the forum.
Author:  FA_Frey_XC [ Mon, Feb 08 2010, 12:00 PM ]
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Actually, if it's net filtered, the common ports, 80 for example, would be context filtered, not just port blocked.

What happens when you do the following REP? You can do one now, and then wait until you see the issue (reproduce it) again and do the same. Copy and paste the results in a PM to both Disco and myself.

1.) Open a command line (assuming your using windows, go start-->start menu ---> command prompt)

2.) Type in the following "tracert 64.25.87.18"


Regards,
Author:  Yurell [ Mon, Feb 08 2010, 12:17 PM ]
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Dwagin wrote:
Aussieland did in fact introduce the national net filter recently.


I didn't think that had happened yet. I tried to look it up, but every source I could find (such as wikipedia) seems to think it hasn't.
Author:  soundofastream [ Mon, Feb 08 2010, 12:46 PM ]
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I have a Mac and I must admit to crashing more often than previously, though still not seriously enough to do anything than re-open it.
Author:  Tiamatian [ Mon, Feb 08 2010, 14:48 PM ]
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It might be worth mentioning that you excluded Linux from your list.

(i have no connection issues however on either my linux or windows pc)
Author:  Dev Disco [ Mon, Feb 08 2010, 14:51 PM ]
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I once did a poll on who uses what and there were 2 linux users at the time... including it seemed poll pollution to me.
Author:  hendrack [ Mon, Feb 08 2010, 15:08 PM ]
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Me and xordae were the linuxers I in that poll I guess. 8)
Author:  xordae [ Mon, Feb 08 2010, 15:09 PM ]
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Nope, I'm on shiny Windows 7 64 bit!

I do use Linux sometimes, but never managed to run NWN on it.
Author:  hendrack [ Mon, Feb 08 2010, 15:11 PM ]
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Hm, think it was Silvarus then. Mixed up the names, did I insult someone now? :oops:
Author:  Dev Disco [ Mon, Feb 08 2010, 16:16 PM ]
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Image

"RHAAAAHHH! I HATE Linux! I HATE Linux! I HATE Linux! OOPS... I ATE Linux! I ATE Linux! I ATE Linux!"
Author:  jafman30 [ Mon, Feb 08 2010, 16:48 PM ]
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Time to club some seals, boys.
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