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Author:	Mr Mago [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 15:32 PM ]
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Just curious of how many characters there are that can actually solo kill Amia's current epic bosses. Would be nice if you could write which bosses you're able to solo kill as well. Try to refrain from posting spoilers as to how to kill the bosses, or where the bosses are found though. Thanks

Author:	Nekhy [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 15:34 PM ]
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None solo. Well, to be honest, I've never even tried. But I can safely say it wouldn't be worth the try.

Author:	IronAngel [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 15:40 PM ]
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I reckon I can solo Maxi. That said, I haven't even seen many of the new epic bosses, like the ASB and later. All I know is that I generally die even in a party.

Author:	Mr Mago [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 15:41 PM ]
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Though, ASB isn't exactly "new", Iron

Author:	jameslocke [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 15:44 PM ]
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Vesz can take out ASB, FGK, Beholder Majesty and Maxi. Windy almost always gets him, and the others I haven't tried. Edit: I forgot the Beholder when I voted

Author:	hendrack [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 15:44 PM ]
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FGK, Maxi, ASB and Pirate are no problem with my deathdomain caster cleric.

Author:	Nekhy [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 15:45 PM ]
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IronAngel wrote: All I know is that I generally die even in a party. Wow, could it be that I do better in this department than you? I have a lot of characters who tend to just die regardless, and then those who can't make it to the boss alone, but do pretty well with some support.

Author:	Mr Mago [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 15:53 PM ]
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If you're voting "All", don't forget the bosses like the Celestial/Demon and Kraven. Which are quite difficult and uncommon to solo.

Author:	Pony [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 16:14 PM ]
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I'm too lazy to use a summon with Sharina, which puts me in the four bosses catergory, might be more if the summon would soak a bit of damage. Maxi, Pirate, FGK and ASB. Didnt try Kraven, Windy and the Beholders solo.

Author:	Terra_777 [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 16:15 PM ]
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FKG, ASB, Windy, Illithids, Kassay(demon guy, sp?) I've soloed with my mage. Havent tried soloing Kraven, Beholder, Pirate and the rest due to lack of patience. Did Windy and Kassay for bragging rights, until I realised the jokes on me for wasting my time on it. Edit: yeah, I forgot Maxi, I have soloed him too.

Author:	Yurell [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 16:24 PM ]
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For me it's ASB, FGK, Maxi and Celestial Boss

Author:	Mr Mago [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 16:29 PM ]
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Darth can do... FGK, Maxi, Celestial, Babylon, Majesty, Dominagus, Pirate, ASB, Windy, Kraven. I have yet to try Darkness solo, but I think he could do that one as well, with the proper tactic.

Author:	Pony [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 16:33 PM ]
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Seems to be more bosses, and I voted wrong then, Babylon can be done easily and so the Dominagus.

Author:	Mr Mago [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 16:35 PM ]
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Yup. 11 bosses in total.

Author:	Yurell [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 16:36 PM ]
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I would've added Babylon, except the char that can run the others never found out what gems were needed, so she can't kill it (although if she knew the gem combo it would be no probs).

Author:	maglorine [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 16:36 PM ]
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There's 3 on your list that I have never even seen, in a party or solo. I don't have any max level pc's at present, and I'm not hopeful for any of the up and comers soloing them either.

Author:	P Three [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 16:39 PM ]
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OK, Darthbag, for realz. You need to show me where these things are. FGK gets old.

Author:	IronAngel [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 16:49 PM ]
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Mr Mago wrote: Though, ASB isn't exactly "new", Iron The last time I was there, it was still a dragon. >_< I guess my PCs just don't hang out with the people who kill these things regularly, and they have little reason to ask around. So even if I know that all these bosses exist, none of my characters do, and I therefore never get to try. I think I fought most of the dragons back in the day, though. Died a few times, but that's mostly because I can't be arsed to tailor my equipment and buffs according to the boss. I generally don't have the HP for risk-free FGK. There's always the good chance of a crit and another hit, which make my bard go down fast. Or my 45-AC WM.

Author:	Mr Mago [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 16:52 PM ]
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I think Icingdeath was replaced with ASB some 2+ years ago.

Author:	Mahtan [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 17:09 PM ]
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All as Brandrik, but just how effectively is another thing. <.< Its just not worth trying to kill something immune to crits and sneaks for him. But can still do it eventually.

Author:	corypx [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 17:23 PM ]
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ok so I just like to point out that DMs think I'm overpowered but I cant solo near 4 bosses I assume heal potions for the win?

Author:	Magiros [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 17:24 PM ]
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Five, Beholder, Dominicus, Maxi, Babylon, The bad guy from Bastion.. My druid can solo Spires, thought never tried other places with her but I am sure she could do some other bosses too. In my opinion, the bosses are too easy. I hate the fact people can solo them, thought I hate the fact if I can't too.

Author:	Sylfwe [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 17:36 PM ]
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Never tried more than Babylon, Fire Giant King and the Demon Boss of Actand. With a bit of effort I can handle those three with a mage.

Author:	xordae [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 17:38 PM ]
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I made a solo run across Brog exactly once, with one character. Didn't take more for me to realize how dull it is and that it wasn't for me. Gimmicks like epic loot are nice if you wanna pwn stuff, but it's just not worth the time invested. On the other hand, partying up and hunting regular monsters is something I do often. The motivator here being XP and a big enough purse to buy stuff.

Author:	Grymia [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 17:41 PM ]
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I don't tend towards liking soloing right now because I can't powerbuild to save my friggin' life. Closest I come is Vaelmith and even he requires fire support from a Magi (<3 Ulrik)

Author:	gorgometh [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 18:00 PM ]
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Av can solo the Fire Giant Monarchs, The Undead Pirate and his loot on good days with lucky rolls, and Babylon. Shakes a fist at all you crazy power builds!

Author:	Zanthair [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 18:28 PM ]
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crap... i voted 2, and reading this thread made me remember 2, so 4 total Isendu't'tar (26 cleric/ 2 fighter) could solo FGK, Majesty (need to avoid slave drivers though, low save vs paralyze ray) , Babylon, Dominagus (though he often had trouble getting to dominagus)

Author:	Yossarin [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 18:29 PM ]
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More than 5, less than 11.

Author:	Nakomis Wolfen [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 18:44 PM ]
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None, nada, zip. <.<

Author:	Jas [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 19:08 PM ]
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The true test is without heal potions and and instant heal stuff unless youre a cleric. Cos that's a test of efficiency imo. Who's up for a Tour de Amia? =D 100k for each boss successfully soloed within the stipulation. So if both players can do it, it breaks even.

Author:	corypx [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 19:13 PM ]
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as a shifter my AB is so low I cant even hit most of the bosses on amia, I need someone to hit them for me.

Author:	Silvarus [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 19:18 PM ]
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Last time I soloed bosses I did Icingdeath... which means it was ages ago. I have no reliable data.

Author:	Dark Immolation [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 19:28 PM ]
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Beldor: FGK, ASB, Maxi, Babylon, Beholder, maybe Dominagus. Probably Windy, if he played it right, but never tried on his own. Ardok: Probably anything, except Pirate, Darkness, Bastion bossies and Beholder. Don't often hunt bosses with him, though. Negi: .... Ha. Negi soloing anything. That's rich.

Author:	TormakSaber [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 19:44 PM ]
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As Torin: Maxi, FGK, ASB, Pirate+Loot, Babylon, Windy (Can't GET to windy solo... can kill Windy solo), Bidoc (can't GET to Bidoc... can solo Bidoc.). I can do all of these with one heal or no heal. I'm not counting the dominagus in my own personal standards, but if you want to, you can. It takes a ridiculously long time though, with a billion heals due to the Concussion. 99% of them are too easy. Every epic boss should be as hard as the Desert Beetle MAtriarch is for that character level.

Author:	Gers [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 19:46 PM ]
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With Jud, at least 6, probably more There's a few I haven't been arsed to try yet.

Author:	Dev Disco [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 19:54 PM ]
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TormakSaber wrote: 99% of them are too easy. Every epic boss should be as hard as the Desert Beetle MAtriarch is for that character level. People tend to gravitate towards the easiest ones, though. Make one harder and the next in line will be popular (after a year, it takes time to notice).

Author:	TormakSaber [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 19:54 PM ]
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Yups, fair enough.

Author:	corypx [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 20:00 PM ]
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well thats why DM war plots are fun, like Ne'sek we got afew boss like battles, shadowflame plot got a boss monster level 58 I think tormak said but it was way out numbered and I think it got dev crit and only lasted like 1min. the 5man groups were harder then the boss.

Author:	TormakSaber [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 20:01 PM ]
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corypx wrote: well thats why DM war plots are fun, like Ne'sek we got afew boss like battles, shadowflame plot got a boss monster level 58 I think tormak said but it was way out numbered and I think it got dev crit and only lasted like 1min. the 5man groups were harder then the boss. I didn't make him Mind Immune, so the barbarian with terrifying rage made him fail a super high will save. Then Enelya Bigby's Forcefulled an NPC with 56 STR. I should have made him immune. I could have DMhealed him but I always feel that's a little cheap. Then yes, he rolled a 1 to a dual scimitar using dev critter. I hate Dev.

Author:	Xaviera [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 20:09 PM ]
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Never = ASB, Bastion (Celestial), Beholder Majesty, Dominagus, Kraven, Undead Pirate Once = Darkness 1-2x = Elder Brain 2-4x = Bastion (Demon) 3-6x = Windreaper, Icingdeath, Babylon 5-10x = Talishima, Beetle Queen* 10-15x = Maxi 15+ = FGK * Well, They are bosses! Albeit minibosses.... Oh... and these arent the times I've soloed these bosses. Just the times I've seen each of them.... IronAngel wrote: The last time I was there, it was still a dragon. >_< Likewise. Never seen the ASB. And wasnt Kraven removed? I never saw him either. I haven't been to the Manor since and I have no idea what he was replaced with. I'm not sure who Dominagus or the Undead Pirate are. And isn't Kassay the Bastion demon? I saw Darkness once in a party with Qirlan. I did solo the Elder Brain once. I was also able to make it up to the peak of Brog mountain solo on one occasion. Both of these before I rebuilt from mostly-bard to mostly-cleric. I think I can solo the Beetle Queen now... EDIT: Also dont know who Bidoc or the desert beetle matriarch are. Expect these are new within the last 6 months or so. And by beetle queen, I of course mean the one that replaced Talishima in the Skull Crags. ANOTHER EDIT: Stop mentioning bosses I've never heard of! Who the heck is Ayreon?

Author:	maglorine [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 20:10 PM ]
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TormakSaber wrote: Every epic boss should be as hard as the Desert Beetle MAtriarch is for that character level. shuddering gasp That thing recently sent a party of us - 6 in all including the summons fleeing into the desert. We had no problem with the desert itself and had cleared the entire area before entering the cave. Not pretty, but memorable. I think the matriarch was at "barely injured" as we made our retreat. Maybe in another level or two shakes fist.

Author:	TormakSaber [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 20:12 PM ]
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I checked why. It's really very strong. High DR and a lot of regeneration. It could do with tweaking, honestly, it's like too hard, I think.

Author:	Cori [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 20:13 PM ]
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That matriarch is harder than any other boss I've fought anywhere near that level. I can't decide if I'd rather fight Ayreon or that beetle matriarch. They both scare me.

Author:	Nekhy [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 20:14 PM ]
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TormakSaber wrote: I checked why. It's really very strong. High DR and a lot of regeneration. It could do with tweaking, honestly, it's like too hard, I think. Nah. I think they should be harder, overall.

Author:	TormakSaber [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 20:15 PM ]
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No, the matriarch is overkill. DR that a level 30 can't beat, 20 regen, several onhits that severely incapacitate the players. I see that thing kill so many full or near full parties. To be fair I guess you could say that's what a boss should do.

Author:	Nekhy [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 20:26 PM ]
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Yeah, I'm of the opinion a boss should brutally assrape the whole party unless they get exceptionally lucky. Bosshunting should be like Russian roulette, you're seriously playing with your life there when you enter the cave!

Author:	belgianbonzai [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 20:28 PM ]
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With a near pure shifter (9druid/2cot/19shifter) i can solo: Fire family Maxi Windreaper (not been to the new abyss yet with him; but if you can still lure her out without her pack it should be possible still) ice beast babylon never been to pirate darkness elder brain

Author:	Yurell [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 21:59 PM ]
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IMO that beetle is way too hard. Way WAY too hard.

Author:	Herr Delta Houdini [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 22:00 PM ]
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Yeah, I went as my Cleric, managed to hold it off at first then it started flowing in with more damage and critting, I think I just barely got it to injured, hehe.

Author:	BlackDahlya [ Thu, Oct 29 2009, 22:32 PM ]
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Ayreon? What's that? As for soloing, nope. None that I can remember now. EDIT: Nevermind, I just remembered! Go go Cori! :P

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