Only Outsiders mind.

Specifically:

Will Save vs Death (not mind effecting) only effects outsiders and summons (including animal companions and familiars).

SR is taken into account.

It's not blocked by Death Protection either (shadow shield, death ward, etc.)

I think it only affects Aasimar, Tieflings, and Gensai PCs.

An Abjurer can get that DC up to 40.

It is literally supposed to be a banishment to the relevant plane, not instant death. But banishing someone to the correct one of the bazillion planes available is a bit tricky to handle, so the outsider is instead banished to the Fugue Plane.

It is literally supposed to be a banishment to the relevant plane, not instant death. But banishing someone to the correct one of the bazillion planes available is a bit tricky to handle, so the outsider is instead banished to the Fugue Plane.

Example: If you're an earth genasi, you are sent to the elemental plane of earth, I bellieve.

It's an impossible spell to get right, because it's relative both to where it's cast and on what it's cast on. It will work on demons in the Abyss (who are right where they belong of course) for instance, but not on plane-jumping humans from the prime material plane who would be classified as Outsiders when they are visiting the Abyss, or...?

What happens if you cast Banishment on a level 20 monks in PnP...? No clue. Sent back to the plane of zen?

This is all mighty confusing, I'll admit.

It's an impossible spell to get right, because it's relative both to where it's cast and on what it's cast on. It will work on demons in the Abyss (who are right where they belong of course) for instance, but not on plane-jumping humans from the prime material plane who would be classified as Outsiders when they are visiting the Abyss, or...?

What happens if you cast Banishment on a level 20 monks in PnP...? No clue. Sent back to the plane of zen?

Outsider PCs on Amia are Native Outsiders. Their native plane is the Prime. So I'd say WYSIWYG: they die.

Outsider PCs on Amia are Native Outsiders. Their native plane is the Prime. So I'd say WYSIWYG: they die.

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Who cares? You Die. End Of Story. Unless the DM specifically allows a different approach, you ave slain the Outsider PC in the traditional manner.

Because it Kills Outsiders, and Monks are not Real Outsiders like Genasi/etc are. We aren't PnP and are free to bed the rules as we see fit when necessary, even if we do enjoy using them.

And the other question?

I answered both. It works in other planes because it Kills Outsiders. Please read the post, less post padding, yurell... once again.

I'm not being condescending, you're drawing this out to pad your post count. I answered both questions.

In the Abyss, they are still Outsiders. Their race is Outsider. They have levels in the Outsider class. And Banishment Kills Outsiders.

Just ignore it as an OCC mechanic. It doesn't work like it should because it would need some serious fiddling around, if even possible.

Oh, because no one could be confused wit "Because they're Outsiders" and "Because they're mechanically Outsiders so NWN can deal with it"?

Balor click to see monster
Size/Type: Large Outsider (Chaotic, Extraplanar, Evil)
Hit Dice: 20d8+200 (290 hp)
Initiative: +11
Speed: 40 ft. (8 squares), fly 90 ft. (good)
Armor Class: 35 (-1 size, +7 Dex, +19 natural), touch 16, flat-footed 28
Base Attack/Grapple: +20/+36
Attack: +1 vorpal longsword +33 melee (2d6+13/19-20)
Full Attack: +1 vorpal longsword +31/+26/+21/+16 melee (2d6+13/19-20) and +1 flaming whip +30/+25 melee (1d4+6 plus 1d6 fire plus entangle); or 2 slams +31 melee (1d10+12)
Space/Reach: 10 ft./10 ft. (20 ft. with +1 flaming whip)
Special Attacks: Death throes, entangle, spell-like abilities, summon demon, vorpal sword
Special Qualities: Damage reduction 15/cold iron and good, darkvision 60 ft., flaming body, immunity to electricity, fire, and poison, resistance to acid 10 and cold 10, spell resistance 28, telepathy 100 ft., true seeing
Saves: Fort +22, Ref +19, Will +19
Abilities: Str 35, Dex 25, Con 31, Int 24, Wis 24, Cha 26
Skills: Bluff +31, Concentration +33, Diplomacy +35, Disguise +8 (+10 acting), Hide +26, Intimidate +33, Knowledge (any two) +30, Listen +38, Move Silently +30, Search +30, Sense Motive +30, Spellcraft +30 (+32 scrolls), Spot +38, Survival +7 (+9 following tracks), Use Magic Device +31 (+33 scrolls)
Feats: Cleave, Improved Initiative, Improved Two-Weapon Fighting, Power Attack, Quicken Spell-Like Ability (telekinesis), Two-Weapon Fighting, Weapon Focus (longsword)
Environment: A chaotic evil-aligned plane
Organization: Solitary or troupe (1 balor, 1 marilith, and 2-5 hezrous)
Challenge Rating: 20
Treasure: Standard coins; double goods; standard items, plus +1 large vorpal longsword and +1 large flaming whip
Alignment: Always chaotic evil
Advancement: 21-30 HD (Large); 31-60 HD (Huge)
Level Adjustment: —

I am not doing this to pad out my post count - are you deliberately saying that to be confrontational?

Why are you needlessly lengthening this topic?

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Who cares? You Die. End Of Story. Unless the DM specifically allows a different approach, you ave slain the Outsider PC in the traditional manner.

Because it Kills Outsiders, and Monks are not Real Outsiders like Genasi/etc are. We aren't PnP and are free to bed the rules as we see fit when necessary, even if we do enjoy using them.

I answered both. It works in other planes because it Kills Outsiders.

In the Abyss, they are still Outsiders. Their race is Outsider. They have levels in the Outsider class. And Banishment Kills Outsiders.

Banishment Kills Outsiders in NWN. Monk Are Not Outsiders in NWN: Banishment Does Not Kill Monks.

*Thumbs Up*

Who cares? You Die. End Of Story. Unless the DM specifically allows a different approach, you ave slain the Outsider PC in the traditional manner.

Because it Kills Outsiders, and Monks are not Real Outsiders like Genasi/etc are. We aren't PnP and are free to bed the rules as we see fit when necessary, even if we do enjoy using them.

I answered both. It works in other planes because it Kills Outsiders.

In the Abyss, they are still Outsiders. Their race is Outsider. They have levels in the Outsider class. And Banishment Kills Outsiders.

Banishment Kills Outsiders in NWN. Monk Are Not Outsiders in NWN: Banishment Does Not Kill Monks.