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Author:  Brown Blur [ Wed, Mar 18 2009, 13:35 PM ]
Post subject:  The plants in the Salandran Temple

I didn't put this in 'Things To Change' as I'm not sure its a bug (though I do wonder if it might be).....

Have one lot of plants (specifically the Morning Glories) been temporarily removed to reflect somewhat the quietness/evacuation of Benwick Hollow by removing one of the reasons to visit? If so, all well and good, and a clever notion.....but having seen problems with either one lot of plants or the other at times, over a number of months, I wonder.

Certainly there have been times when it looks as if someone has grabbed many/most/all of them to stockpile, also times when I have got the impression some lame wazzock has grabbed them all just to inconvenience/annoy others, and also times when I have been sure there must have been a glitch/bug and the 'containers' have not refilled at reset.

Can a DM confirm whether or not they have been temporarily removed as part a of the ongoing plot? It would save me some time/effort/frustration to know one way or the other.......

Thanks!

Author:  Torzeng [ Wed, Mar 18 2009, 18:22 PM ]
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Are the containers themselves actually -gone-?
Or are they not 'opening' to let you harvest?

I've known of people to start there and take the herbs immediately after a reset. I can't say of recent since I've moved my Sally's starting point according to the RP.

But I'd be a little surprised if a DM has intentionally removed some of it. For any reason. In our own forum we've had discussions along those lines and the DM's have shown a reluctance to alter the plants.

I should try to sneak back and examine. I don't recal it being posted anywhere that the plants were also packed up and moved.

Author:  Sokar Rostau [ Wed, Mar 18 2009, 18:26 PM ]
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Didn't someone recently steal flowers or something? Something along those lines was mentioned on the forums recently because arrows had been left with a message and I overheard some Hin in Bendir talking about it. Or was that something different?

Author:  Torzeng [ Wed, Mar 18 2009, 18:30 PM ]
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Sokar Rostau wrote:
Didn't someone recently steal flowers or something? Something along those lines was mentioned on the forums recently because arrows had been left with a message and I overheard some Hin in Bendir talking about it. Or was that something different?


Those stolen plants are IC done by a PC. It's not an actual DM thing going on. I know, my character is the targeted name xD

That is just somebody harvesting the plants like anyone else and leaving a named arrow inside.

Author:  Athyonn Ursidae [ Wed, Mar 18 2009, 18:38 PM ]
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Perhaps they were removed with the evacuation going on?

Author:  Galenson [ Wed, Mar 18 2009, 23:15 PM ]
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Why would the Salandrans rip out the plants when they were in a rush to move their arses out of the general vicinity? Don't know about you but if my arse was on the line a plant would be the last thing I'd think about.

Chances are someone without curtesy to other players had stripped them all bare. Just as a warning to the general populace, remember you're not the only person that crafts those kits. Save some for the rest of the playerbase please. There's not going to be anymore plants added to the module, that's the limit.

Author:  Brown Blur [ Wed, Mar 18 2009, 23:44 PM ]
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Ok, thanks for the replies.... its been a situation I have noticed before at times, and then, like now, have checked soon after or immediately after reset, and found the tubs empty of leaves (the tubs 'open' with the 'contents window' like any container in the game, but are empty).

Its confusing because its pretty much always been the Morning Glories lately (though at one time in the past it seemed to be always the Rose Lilies that were being entirely stripped). If somebody is being greedy in their harvesting, you would think they would take both....

Only once have I seen your markers there Torzeng, so I know its not you grabbing them all! No objection to them going to a Salandran, of course.... they are Salandran plants in the Salandran Temple, its just I get the feeling some lame saddo is doing it deliberately and throwing them away.

Author:  Yurell [ Thu, Mar 19 2009, 0:22 AM ]
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It is exceedingly annoying when people strip plants bare. My Salandran asks that people take no more than 15 (which is still too much), while only taking 5-10 herself (now, she used to take 15).
Still, people do so, which is why we asked for the nice sign to b placed up so that anyone who continues to strip gets placed under the category of 'metagaming the guards'.

Author:  Galenson [ Thu, Mar 19 2009, 1:08 AM ]
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I still think that the plants should be scattered around the module more. Particularly Benwick Hollow. Having them all in one place all clumped up is just asking for someone to take them all at once.

Author:  Torzeng [ Thu, Mar 19 2009, 1:15 AM ]
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I say let the current war story play out and we may see something happen to the plants anyways. :P

Author:  Yurell [ Thu, Mar 19 2009, 1:20 AM ]
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Torzeng wrote:
I say let the current war story play out and we may see something happen to the plants anyways. :P


Yeah, that'll be interesting.

Author:  Yossarin [ Thu, Mar 19 2009, 1:21 AM ]
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You asked for a DM confirmation, here's your DM confirmation: no, we didn't strip the plants. A PC is doing it. And I can verify that, now, too.

Author:  Yurell [ Thu, Mar 19 2009, 1:43 AM ]
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Cheers for that.

I don't think this will be done, but it's worth a shot - since the Temple has been evacuated, could the doors be locked?

Author:  Galenson [ Thu, Mar 19 2009, 1:48 AM ]
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Changing the salandran grounds to reflect the damage will require changing the Shrine and the Northern Graveyard. It's not fair to change one and leave the others.

Hence why the DMs in our forum said no module changes.

Author:  Dev Disco [ Thu, Mar 19 2009, 8:02 AM ]
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I incorporated the herb crafting stuff into the job system and have to replace the containers when it goes in. I was already thinking of spreading the herbs a bit more (besides adding some new herbs/recipes).

Author:  Dramatic_Prince [ Thu, Mar 19 2009, 11:54 AM ]
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Dev Disco wrote:
I incorporated the herb crafting stuff into the job system and have to replace the containers when it goes in. I was already thinking of spreading the herbs a bit more (besides adding some new herbs/recipes).

Does that mean the average joe will no longer be able to craft heal potions? If so, that sounds like a reason for people to start stockpiling :lol:

Author:  Galenson [ Thu, Mar 19 2009, 12:28 PM ]
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No, it just means you need to take points in the herbologist profession.

Author:  Dramatic_Prince [ Thu, Mar 19 2009, 15:58 PM ]
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And I thought the whole point of the job system was not to give characters an added mechanical edge.

Author:  Daniel_Waynold [ Thu, Mar 19 2009, 16:23 PM ]
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Sokar Rostau wrote:
Didn't someone recently steal flowers or something? Something along those lines was mentioned on the forums recently because arrows had been left with a message and I overheard some Hin in Bendir talking about it. Or was that something different?

I was the Hin, and yes, I talked about it in Bendir. :) They were stolen. Still has the arrow. <3

Author:  Brown Blur [ Thu, Mar 19 2009, 18:17 PM ]
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Daniel_Waynold wrote:
Sokar Rostau wrote:
Didn't someone recently steal flowers or something? Something along those lines was mentioned on the forums recently because arrows had been left with a message and I overheard some Hin in Bendir talking about it. Or was that something different?

I was the Hin, and yes, I talked about it in Bendir. :) They were stolen. Still has the arrow. <3


Ah, you too? I was grumbling about it IC also......hehe

Author:  Yurell [ Thu, Mar 19 2009, 20:41 PM ]
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Dramatic_Prince wrote:
And I thought the whole point of the job system was not to give characters an added mechanical edge.


I guess if you want tomake lots of money, go be a herbologist.

Author:  Galenson [ Thu, Mar 19 2009, 22:39 PM ]
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Dramatic_Prince wrote:
And I thought the whole point of the job system was not to give characters an added mechanical edge.


I wouldn't say it's a mechanical edge being able to craft healing kits. It IS a stimulus boost to the player economy because if players are smart, they'll sell them cheaper then the stores but expensive enough to gain some profit out of it. The same could be said for alchemists crafting potions.

It's not like it makes your character more powerful, it just proves the character's a tight arse when it comes to spending money.

Author:  Torzeng [ Fri, Mar 20 2009, 0:52 AM ]
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Brown Blur wrote:
Daniel_Waynold wrote:
Sokar Rostau wrote:
Didn't someone recently steal flowers or something? Something along those lines was mentioned on the forums recently because arrows had been left with a message and I overheard some Hin in Bendir talking about it. Or was that something different?

I was the Hin, and yes, I talked about it in Bendir. :) They were stolen. Still has the arrow. <3


Ah, you too? I was grumbling about it IC also......hehe


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