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It doesn't help though when the choices are usually (A) "Yes ma'am, it was a pleasure to return all of your jewels and daughter safe and sound and vanquish the evil wizard without being tempted to usurp his power! No reward necessary!" -or- (B) *Kill woman, burn down house, steal jewels, punt puppy*

I know! Even my most evil PC has a soft side. Its really disappointing, personally. I just cant completely separate it, so i have to rationalize his actions, and it can be a stretch.

Anyway, welcome!

Good luck with that. I personally have a hard time playing evil characters. It always makes me feel bad. Even with single-player games, it's tough for me to play the bad guy... It doesn't help though when the choices are usually (A) "Yes ma'am, it was a pleasure to return all of your jewels and daughter safe and sound and vanquish the evil wizard without being tempted to usurp his power! No reward necessary!" -or- (B) *Kill woman, burn down house, steal jewels, punt puppy*.

The Cobbit wrote:

Same here. In Bioware's game Knights of the Old Republic, the part where the game makes you [spoiler]kill Mission[/spoiler] if you choose the Dark Side path made me turn off the game, because I couldn't bring myself to keep playing. (I eventually reloaded from an old save and beat it.)

Tonnes of new drow ... I've seen a half-score in the past three nights! So whatever you're doing, Bell, must be working

Yurell wrote:

Tonnes of new drow ... I've seen a half-score in the past three nights! So whatever you're doing, Bell, must be working

We did just like have a 5 page forum on evil characters, or rather several across the forums

..there's also a topic about more new players. O.o

This is the drow are awesome thread, go and make your own please.

Well everyone has a good and dark side, it's what side you choose to follow that matters. Even the darkest of amian characters may have a soft spot or two. (it reflects real life)

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...unless your role-playing a devil *cough*

will recognise me ass Belladonna

Oh, and I agree, Tarkuul IS THEE Dark Side

. RAWR! Eat your heart out Ultrinnan!

However I have got to say that the drow player base out there in amia is one of the nicest and most welcoming groups of people I have run into. They have been nothing but kind, welcoming and patient (ooc of course) whilst I get to groups with a new system.

Bah, greenskins are all too disorganised and cowardly, skeleton huggers are just emo wannabee goths, drow simply the BDSM circuit.

If you want to play a true bad arse, play a Shadow Elf! They're the ultimate bad arses of all bad arses.

More xenophobic than the Drow, more wild than wild elves or orcs, more whiter than vampires, more stealthy and cunning than cyricist or zhent, able to see in even magical darkness, they are the emodiment of the true dark side...hehe...

o0GuNz_N_RoSeZ0o wrote:

Oh, and I agree, Tarkuul IS THEE Dark Side

. RAWR! Eat your heart out Ultrinnan!

You missed my post. Gruumsh is papa bad arse and so are orcs. Anyone else is just B rated.

My preferred evil is more cold and calculating. Out for number one and screw the rest.

A True "The Ends Justify the means" kind of guy, if he had to burn down the orphanage which held a targets illegitimate child to get the guy to come out of a hidey hole, he would. He just wouldn't burn down the Orphanage for funsies like quite a lot of Evil PC's I see.

Author:	Athyonn Ursidae [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 5:56 AM ]
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Alright everyone who knows me out there will recognise me ass Belladonna, my very cute an possibly sweet hin ranger. I had thought to play with her for just about forever to the extent of not bothering to make another character for a long while. However just recently an old friend returned to amia after a break away and sugested that I might try something new to keep things fresh. Now two things I will openly admit to, the first being that I have never played as a drow or any 'evil' character on amia as I had been nervous about creating ooc tensions. And the second is that I have never played as a mage since my days of the DnD Board Game. However I have got to say that the drow player base out there in amia is one of the nicest and most welcoming groups of people I have run into. They have been nothing but kind, welcoming and patient (ooc of course) whilst I get to groups with a new system. Anyway I suppose the point of tis rambling is just to say to other who might be like me out there....dont be affraid to try the dark side, it doesnt make you a bad person afterall ALso if anyone else has similar experiences they would like to share, please feel free to do so.

Author:	The Cobbit [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 6:10 AM ]
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Good luck with that. I personally have a hard time playing evil characters. It always makes me feel bad. Even with single-player games, it's tough for me to play the bad guy... It doesn't help though when the choices are usually (A) "Yes ma'am, it was a pleasure to return all of your jewels and daughter safe and sound and vanquish the evil wizard without being tempted to usurp his power! No reward necessary!" -or- (B) Kill woman, burn down house, steal jewels, punt puppy. My best efforts to play an 'evil' character come from playing a bumbling crook who just can't seem to ever get anything.

Author:	Azrael [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 6:18 AM ]
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awe he's a fluffy bunny too It helps when you totally separate yourself from your character philosophically, it's like define a philosophy for your character and think what would they do? ...given they believe in this-this-and-this set of rules or guidelines. For example: I personally might think world peace is something worth trying for, my character may think there's no way in hell so why try? Someone asks my character to go on a political mission to unite several factions ..character is like 'so?' "someone will just screw it up later on anyway." ..personally I would give a diffrent answer, of course. ^^

Author:	Carter [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 6:25 AM ]
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The Cobbit wrote: It doesn't help though when the choices are usually (A) "Yes ma'am, it was a pleasure to return all of your jewels and daughter safe and sound and vanquish the evil wizard without being tempted to usurp his power! No reward necessary!" -or- (B) Kill woman, burn down house, steal jewels, punt puppy Bioware is terrible with alignment things. They really are. Obsidian is slightly better, oddly enough, but still not really good at all. I never could figure out how to be a Sith -and- have Kreia like you! I know the feeling, though. I have a lot of trouble playing evil in Single Player games. The NPCs get so sad, and disappointed, and I feel guilty.

Author:	Zanthair [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 6:28 AM ]
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I know! Even my most evil PC has a soft side. Its really disappointing, personally. I just cant completely separate it, so i have to rationalize his actions, and it can be a stretch. Anyway, welcome!

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Author:	BlackDahlya [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 6:35 AM ]
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Zanthair wrote: I know! Even my most evil PC has a soft side. Its really disappointing, personally. I just cant completely separate it, so i have to rationalize his actions, and it can be a stretch. Anyway, welcome! I make his words mine, too. sigh I fail at making utterly evil PCs. And, arr! Welcome to the Dark Side!

Author:	Azrael [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 6:37 AM ]
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Well everyone has a good and dark side, it's what side you choose to follow that matters. Even the darkest of amian characters may have a soft spot or two. (it reflects real life) ... ...unless your role-playing a devil cough

Author:	StandingBehindYou [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 6:41 AM ]
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The Cobbit wrote: Good luck with that. I personally have a hard time playing evil characters. It always makes me feel bad. Even with single-player games, it's tough for me to play the bad guy... It doesn't help though when the choices are usually (A) "Yes ma'am, it was a pleasure to return all of your jewels and daughter safe and sound and vanquish the evil wizard without being tempted to usurp his power! No reward necessary!" -or- (B) Kill woman, burn down house, steal jewels, punt puppy. Same here. In Bioware's game Knights of the Old Republic, the part where the game makes you [spoiler]kill Mission[/spoiler] if you choose the Dark Side path made me turn off the game, because I couldn't bring myself to keep playing. (I eventually reloaded from an old save and beat it.)

Author:	The Cobbit [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 6:42 AM ]
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I'll throw in a piece of wrestling advice Freebird Michael Hayes gave Mick Foley once, which I think applies well if you want to play an evil character. "In his mind, a heel has to feel his actions are justified. It doesn't matter how far out his motives... As long as he feels he's right!"

Author:	Carter [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 7:16 AM ]
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StandingBehindYou wrote: The Cobbit wrote: Good luck with that. I personally have a hard time playing evil characters. It always makes me feel bad. Even with single-player games, it's tough for me to play the bad guy... It doesn't help though when the choices are usually (A) "Yes ma'am, it was a pleasure to return all of your jewels and daughter safe and sound and vanquish the evil wizard without being tempted to usurp his power! No reward necessary!" -or- (B) Kill woman, burn down house, steal jewels, punt puppy. Same here. In Bioware's game Knights of the Old Republic, the part where the game makes you [spoiler]kill Mission[/spoiler] if you choose the Dark Side path made me turn off the game, because I couldn't bring myself to keep playing. (I eventually reloaded from an old save and beat it.) Pft. I liked that part, but it did make me sad. I always had more trouble with the little stuff, especially on Kashyyyk. I could never side with what's-his-name and let Czerka take over, so I always got Light Side Points.

Author:	Dramatic_Prince [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 7:17 AM ]
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Zomg! You've gone drow? We shall meet in Ultrinnan

Author:	Yurell [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 7:24 AM ]
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Tonnes of new drow ... I've seen a half-score in the past three nights! So whatever you're doing, Bell, must be working

Author:	Azrael [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 7:30 AM ]
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Yurell wrote: Tonnes of new drow ... I've seen a half-score in the past three nights! So whatever you're doing, Bell, must be working We did just like have a 5 page forum on evil characters, or rather several across the forums ..there's also a topic about more new players. O.o

Author:	Yurell [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 9:30 AM ]
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Azrael wrote: Yurell wrote: Tonnes of new drow ... I've seen a half-score in the past three nights! So whatever you're doing, Bell, must be working We did just like have a 5 page forum on evil characters, or rather several across the forums ..there's also a topic about more new players. O.o It was an in joke, Az Anyway, the drow are generally warm and welcoming, despite what people may have heard. We're always in a nice large party so you can quickly get acquainted and ask for help.

Author:	IronAngel [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 10:03 AM ]
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Your experiences are much like my own, Athyonn. Back in the day, I was getting a bit bored with surface RP. It was too vast, spread too thinly across the playerbase, too inconsistent for me to get truly involved in. When I tried drow, I was immediately sucked in. I was welcomed and advised before I even created the character, and immediately in game I was being introduced to PCs, given quests, getting a reaction. Udos Dro'xun, and later Ultrinnan, was a community. Everyone was interconnected through rivalry, alliance, hierarchy. The roleplay was just so much more inclusive and immersive. Good luck with it, I had some of my best times on Amia in Ultrinnan.

Author:	HellScourge [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 12:17 PM ]
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Also remember, there is short term evil and long term evil. Short erm evil: Sacrifice people, kill people on sight, etc. Long term evil: Spoil the hate in someone so high that all they can think about is revenge, killing everyone who disagrees with them. <- That is one of my most favourite thinks I ever did as a Drow, not killing an elf on sight but paralizing him and then mocking him to turn him to the 'dark side'. Anyways, hae fun playing a Drowsie ^^

Author:	Craig deathwalker [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 15:10 PM ]
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Like frey I made Ray a almost neutral character, more towards evil due to pre amia happenings. He was open to change and still is, however amia life betrayel, defeat, loss and the rewards that being evil have gained him make him the way he is. Infact Sometimes I think he has rubbed off on myself in some aspects. I do however wish amia had more evil evil players. My main hate is seeing a mass murderor sit down and swear his love for his wife and child.

Author:	Galenson [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 23:27 PM ]
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Drow aren't evil at all, try greenskins. You'll be in the sheer minority, you'll have (relative) access to both surface and underdark worlds and you can bully till your heart's content.

Author:	maughter [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 9:40 AM ]
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i just let go, take a step back and let the fallout rain. when my evil characters cook up something diabolical, i look at it as a good thing i'm totally different from this and and i'm glad i could come to terms with that. set fire to kittens, threaten old ladies, mercilessly butcher everything that doesn't think the way you do( within server PvP rules) it's all good emotional detatchment: the True way to play evil

Author:	The Incognitos [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 10:42 AM ]
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try being Cheney evil... a callous, cold and wholly self interested bastard who acts like they give a damn about everyone.

Author:	FA_Frey_XC [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 10:58 AM ]
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If you really want to taste the Dark side, come to Tarkuul. I have no issue playing Frey as the evil bastard he is.... and there's a reason for that. Hate - Frey has an entire backstory that happened IG / IC on Amia that has made him the way he is - elements of the Weave Knights... betrayal, lies and the rest. He was originally Lawful Neutral when the character was first created in 2006. And the biggest thing you can do when playing evil? Remember the other character there has someone else playing them too. It's important to have a good OOC understanding when your playing evil, especially with your fellow evil PC players. Communication, and clear communication of one's expectations and the like are necessary, otherwise someone will misunderstand and take something the wrong way. Regards,

Author:	Pony [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 13:57 PM ]
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Author:	555444333 [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 15:08 PM ]
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Lol Phearnun - Preaching to the choir here.

Author:	555444333 [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 15:17 PM ]
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This is the drow are awesome thread, go and make your own please.

Author:	hendrack [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 15:19 PM ]
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Evil characters are boring as long as they have nothing to lose. That's the flip side of the coin when the players choose what happens to their character at all times. My urdlen gnome is perma-dead since he was captured and smacked on the head by Lyle.

Author:	xdrone561x [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 16:01 PM ]
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555444333 wrote: This is the drow are awesome thread, go and make your own please. oh blow it out your arse numbers ya git Tarkuul is awesome! drow town is awesome as well i guess the trick to playing evil is a bunch of things mentioned before, always think of the other person etc. I like to channel things from past present and possible future. It makes it a bit more easy to play a evil pc. Bottom line if your going to play a truly evil pc, youll have a love hate relationship. You as a human would never do these things, but your pc will. Ive grown to hate most of my drow a smuch as i love playing them, simply because they have no moral compass whatsoever

Author:	ainjyll [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 22:33 PM ]
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Evil characters are fun to play, but I can't do the evil for the sake of being evil kind. My preferred evil is more cold and calculating. Out for number one and screw the rest. But, back on topic.... Welcome to the dark side, Athyonn..... we have the best cookies.

Author:	willow [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 23:45 PM ]
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Azrael wrote: Well everyone has a good and dark side, it's what side you choose to follow that matters. Even the darkest of amian characters may have a soft spot or two. (it reflects real life) ... ...unless your role-playing a devil cough ...That's quite mean, Az. I have an evil little Willow inside of me, sure, but I don't turn into one.

Author:	Gunz [ Mon, Mar 09 2009, 1:27 AM ]
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Athyonn Ursidae wrote: will recognise me ass Belladonna Awww come on... Bella isn't an ass, she's alright sometimes I know what you mean. I remember when I first went to Ultrinnan, some two and a half years ago. I was hooked too, loved it. But ever since leaving almost a year ago, I haven't looked back. Nothing against the good people and friends I made while RPing heavily in Ultrinnan, but yeah... I won't say much of why I never went back. All you need to know is, I didn't and I won't. Have fun and good luck down there! Oh, and I agree, Tarkuul IS THEE Dark Side . RAWR! Eat your heart out Ultrinnan!

Author:	Galenson [ Mon, Mar 09 2009, 3:32 AM ]
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o0GuNz_N_RoSeZ0o wrote: Oh, and I agree, Tarkuul IS THEE Dark Side . RAWR! Eat your heart out Ultrinnan! You missed my post. Gruumsh is papa bad arse and so are orcs. Anyone else is just B rated.

Author:	soundofastream [ Mon, Mar 09 2009, 4:17 AM ]
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Bah, greenskins are all too disorganised and cowardly, skeleton huggers are just emo wannabee goths, drow simply the BDSM circuit. If you want to play a true bad arse, play a Shadow Elf! They're the ultimate bad arses of all bad arses. More xenophobic than the Drow, more wild than wild elves or orcs, more whiter than vampires, more stealthy and cunning than cyricist or zhent, able to see in even magical darkness, they are the emodiment of the true dark side...hehe...

Author:	Signe Johanne [ Mon, Mar 09 2009, 4:27 AM ]
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Athyonn Ursidae wrote: However I have got to say that the drow player base out there in amia is one of the nicest and most welcoming groups of people I have run into. They have been nothing but kind, welcoming and patient (ooc of course) whilst I get to groups with a new system. I'm thrilled for you. I hope this good circle just keeps growing. Yup, it is hard roleplaying evil, but when I feel as if I really "get it", it is wonderful. You can't get much further from RL than that, and that's what this interest is all about for me. Come all, to Ultrinnan!

Author:	Galenson [ Mon, Mar 09 2009, 4:35 AM ]
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soundofastream wrote: Bah, greenskins are all too disorganised and cowardly, skeleton huggers are just emo wannabee goths, drow simply the BDSM circuit. If you want to play a true bad arse, play a Shadow Elf! They're the ultimate bad arses of all bad arses. More xenophobic than the Drow, more wild than wild elves or orcs, more whiter than vampires, more stealthy and cunning than cyricist or zhent, able to see in even magical darkness, they are the emodiment of the true dark side...hehe... Atleast us disorganised Greenskin cowards don't require platinum coins That makes you a B rated villain.

Author:	Gunz [ Mon, Mar 09 2009, 7:52 AM ]
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Galenson wrote: o0GuNz_N_RoSeZ0o wrote: Oh, and I agree, Tarkuul IS THEE Dark Side . RAWR! Eat your heart out Ultrinnan! You missed my post. Gruumsh is papa bad arse and so are orcs. Anyone else is just B rated. Hey, who says you can't have a green skin that frequents Tarkuul? soundofastream wrote: Bah, greenskins are all too disorganised and cowardly, skeleton huggers are just emo wannabee goths, drow simply the BDSM circuit. If you want to play a true bad arse, play a Shadow Elf! They're the ultimate bad arses of all bad arses. More xenophobic than the Drow, more wild than wild elves or orcs, more whiter than vampires, more stealthy and cunning than cyricist or zhent, able to see in even magical darkness, they are the emodiment of the true dark side...hehe... Bah... platinum coin races... you don't need a ultra rare race to be a grade A evil bad ass

Author:	Kjetta [ Mon, Mar 09 2009, 8:35 AM ]
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soundofastream wrote: Bah, greenskins are all too disorganised and cowardly, skeleton huggers are just emo wannabee goths, drow simply the BDSM circuit. If you want to play a true bad arse, play a Shadow Elf! They're the ultimate bad arses of all bad arses. More xenophobic than the Drow, more wild than wild elves or orcs, more whiter than vampires, more stealthy and cunning than cyricist or zhent, able to see in even magical darkness, they are the emodiment of the true dark side...hehe... There is a far more sinister threat on Amia, horrid creatures championing capitalism and privatization of public services as well as advocating dreary monoculture, plotting to render each unique café into a McDonalds or Starbucks - The Partners of the ACTF!

Author:	Yossarin [ Mon, Mar 09 2009, 9:21 AM ]
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The ACTF cruise vessels that carry wealthy land barons, socialites and celebrities suffering nervous breakdown, emotional disorders or advanced stages of conspicuous consumption to the Salandran Temple Grounds for exorbitant prices? The Salandrans may be religiously bound not to charge for their healing arts, but you do have to buy passage to their Health Club & Spa on that backwards little island in the Trackless Sea somehow...

Author:	Galenson [ Mon, Mar 09 2009, 23:32 PM ]
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Unless the Salandrans decide to pwn your arses in the name of good health? Now there's an interesting thought.

Author:	A Majestic Dwarf [ Mon, Mar 09 2009, 23:45 PM ]
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ainjyll wrote: My preferred evil is more cold and calculating. Out for number one and screw the rest. I actually made a Lawful evil character who was convinced his goals were working towards a better world. (I can't say much more about them here, wait until Amia 2, and then they may become clear). But he was lawful because he had a code that he had sworn too, and he was evil, because outside of that code he would do ANYTHING to fulfill his goals to work towards that better world. A True "The Ends Justify the means" kind of guy, if he had to burn down the orphanage which held a targets illegitimate child to get the guy to come out of a hidey hole, he would. He just wouldn't burn down the Orphanage for funsies like quite a lot of Evil PC's I see. He was cold, he was calculating, but not out for number one in the slightest.