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When I go afk for ages on Friday or Saturday past 10pm..
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Author:  Uberuce [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 7:07 AM ]
Post subject:  When I go afk for ages on Friday or Saturday past 10pm..
...it means I've passed out drunk in front of the keyboard again. Just grab a DM and have me booted. I was on for over an hour last night, on what I assume was a very full server, so my apologies for anyone spamming Connect, and tsk tsk to those who didn't rat me out. You're meant to, and I don't mind.

The same applies to any extended AFKer. Just grab DM and get booted; it's okay.
Author:  Athyonn Ursidae [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 7:20 AM ]
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*glares for a little while then cant help but laugh* Well at least he's honest about it, which is more than I can say for some I know of.

On a related issue is there no way for the server to detect if someone has been logged in but hasnt been active for a while?
Author:  LetumLux [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 7:25 AM ]
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Athyonn Ursidae wrote:
On a related issue is there no way for the server to detect if someone has been logged in but hasnt been active for a while?


What would qualify as "active"?

Spies often stay put for extended periods of time, not interacting with the game because there's really no reason to. No one will see their emotes (presumably), there's nothing to interact with, or "do" besides sit and watch/listen to people chatting which can go on for hours with no one moving or activating an item, opening their character sheet, or anything like that.
Author:  Athyonn Ursidae [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 7:45 AM ]
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A grey area I have to admit, though even when my Bella stays put for what can be -very- long periods of time, I am still always doing something, even if it is only going through her inventory arranging things.
Author:  Cori [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 7:59 AM ]
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It requires insanely lagalicious heartbeat scripts. It's been suggested before, and that was the reason it wasn't added.
Author:  Athyonn Ursidae [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 8:00 AM ]
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Ah I did wonder...but I couldnt find any past relevent topics on it.
Author:  Cori [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 8:05 AM ]
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Also, as to what qualifies as active, on the last server I played on, which *did* have an auto-boot script, active did not include moving around, or moving inventory.

Generally, if you were not in combat, it meant that every 15 minutes or so, you had to (usually ooc) rest to reset the timer. It was horribly annoying, and also rather disruptive to the overall flow of rp.

And if you were busy and didn't notice the warning message, then soon thereafter you suddenly found yourself looking at a "you have been booted" screen, possibly (likely) cursing and swearing, because the server was full and you couldn't get back on.
Author:  Athyonn Ursidae [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 8:13 AM ]
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Yeah that kinda thing would be seriously annoying to me as well as a lot of others I imagine, I was just trying to think of a sfety net system for those who tend to go over the hour mark, not something small like 20 minutes or so.
Author:  Dev Disco [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 9:00 AM ]
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I think I know of about 5 people who sometimes sleep on their keyboard. Guess that's not enough to make a script for.

Just ask a DM to change his name and boot him.
Author:  Transcendental Templar [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 9:04 AM ]
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I'll keep a closer eye on you from now on Uce, promise! If I see evil drunken AFK taking over, I'll give you the boot of Mercy.

And seriously, yes, if we see people AFK for long periods of time we'll boot, so it's best to just log off if you suspect you might be away for a long while. Think of all those poor DC spammers and their spasming fingers, and have a heart!
Author:  Xenos [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 9:09 AM ]
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Well.. i had the message typed up and everything.. was goin to have a DM boot him so Mith didnt have to stand around guarding him anymore.. but i saw like 30 min tell reset so didnt bother *shrug*
Author:  Signe Johanne [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 10:11 AM ]
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Transcendental Templar wrote:
If I see evil drunken AFK taking over, I'll give you the boot of Mercy.

... after I've dressed your PC up in a catgirl outfit, of course. ;)
Author:  This Means War [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 10:49 AM ]
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Activity is a strangely difficult topic. I might be actively at my keyboard, typing to people while I wait for someone to get done with their RP session (Because they wanted a private conversation, for example), and I might move my camera around and around and around, scoping out for characters to torment until they do get done. Just because I don't move, or hit something, or rest, doesn't mean I'm not active. Just means I'm waiting for something.

Sadly, still, I've gotten booted before, seemingly for 'inactivity', without so much as a Tell asking me if I was there. Rather unfortunate and a vague, rather ridiculous, assumption.
Author:  Gravemaskin [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 10:50 AM ]
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I only fell asleep once.. and that was while playing in the Shrine. and like nobody noticed <.< I were out for almost 30 mins. I dunno if that's good or bad that they didn't notice. :roll:
Author:  Selvec Darkon [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 11:07 AM ]
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Never done that, always had trouble imagining how someone could fall asleep on there keyboard. Be so uncomfortable.
Author:  Galenson [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 11:14 AM ]
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Terra knows all about it.
Author:  Guxx [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 11:59 AM ]
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I've woken up with my fair share of 'keyboard face's... though I've never passed out well on Amia, which is a good sign.
Author:  soundofastream [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 12:45 PM ]
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Happens to me when other people in the USA want me to stay up longer than I can physically handle (blast the timezone differences!), there's been plenty of times where I've literally fallen asleep.
Author:  Uberuce [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 12:55 PM ]
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Selvec Darkon wrote:
Never done that, always had trouble imagining how someone could fall asleep on there keyboard. Be so uncomfortable.
My neck felt like Chuck Norris had karate chopped it.
Author:  aurelius311 [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 13:07 PM ]
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I may or may not have done this before. In the middle of huge RP once, which was hilarious / disappointing.
Author:  Athyonn Ursidae [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 13:47 PM ]
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I can honestly say I have never fallen asleep at the keyboard. Plenty of other things maybe, but never fallen asleeep :D
Author:  Dramatic_Prince [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 14:15 PM ]
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I used to fall asleep alot since RP always happens in the wee hours.
Is it possible to script something client-side that auto shuts down after a certain time without activity?
Author:  Bloodfist [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 14:41 PM ]
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theres a pretty simple solution.. send the person a tell and see if they respond
Author:  MoshingChris [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 15:43 PM ]
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Dramatic_Prince wrote:
I used to fall asleep alot since RP always happens in the wee hours.
Is it possible to script something client-side that auto shuts down after a certain time without activity?


That kind of script adds lag.

Simple fix as stated above.

I've had you booted once for extended afk due to sleeping i believe. Nothing malicious in it, just that the server was 65/65 and you didn't respond to anything typed to you.
Author:  belgianbonzai [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 16:03 PM ]
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MoshingChris wrote:
Dramatic_Prince wrote:
I used to fall asleep alot since RP always happens in the wee hours.
Is it possible to script something client-side that auto shuts down after a certain time without activity?


That kind of script adds lag.


Client-side doesn't add lag.
Author:  Dev Disco [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 16:04 PM ]
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Threatening known AFK-ers with hell and damnation also works.
Author:  Transcendental Templar [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 16:19 PM ]
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Dev Disco wrote:
Threatening known AFK-ers with hell and damnation also works.


Which basically comes down to saying they'll get a ban if they dont cease, and repent for their AFK sins. For most people, that's as close enough to hell as one can get. >.>

*A great gate did rise before my eyes, formed of fire, brimstone, and the writhling bodies of those eternally banned. Upon that sight did my lips part and shriek in horror: "Oh dear lord, deliver me from this vision and take me back among your herd! For my eyes bleed and heart trembles in the face of thy fury."*
Author:  Dramatic_Prince [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 17:57 PM ]
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I repent :D
Author:  Uberuce [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 18:09 PM ]
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Well, I blame everyone except me. Ron, Xenos, you bastards.
Author:  Athyonn Ursidae [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 18:14 PM ]
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Dramatic_Prince wrote:
I repent :D


Shush now we all know that aint true :lol:
Author:  Moridan_X [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 19:59 PM ]
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it wasn't that full, only maybe about 55 people or something
Author:  555444333 [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 20:01 PM ]
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Uberuce wrote:
Well, I blame everyone except me. You should have made numbers the benign dictator.
Author:  TormakSaber [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 20:06 PM ]
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Yes, numbers, we get it, stop spamming worthlessly about it.
Author:  Slig [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 20:09 PM ]
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I think Uberuce should be banned for wasting server resources*.




*Sarcasm. I certainly do not think anyone should be banned for wasting server resources.
Author:  555444333 [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 20:09 PM ]
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I figure if I can get the whole world thinking such, the whole world will soon be mine.
Author:  This Means War [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 20:33 PM ]
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Slig wrote:
I think Uberuce should be banned for wasting server resources*.




*Sarcasm. I certainly do not think anyone should be banned for wasting server resources.


Admittance anyone?
Author:  Delarwyn [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 22:08 PM ]
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lol.. I think it was cool for you to post it Ruce. And good that no DM found you, last time Jud was on his speedo in Cordor, Saris had flowers and jewels all over him... I wonder why the DM lost such an interesting opportunity.

:twisted:
Author:  Yurell [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 22:29 PM ]
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Just watch ... if you ask and they don't respond, have fun! If you're a player, insult their mother, if your a DM, make their mother insult them!
Author:  Gravemaskin [ Sat, Feb 14 2009, 22:35 PM ]
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Delarwyn wrote:
lol.. I think it was cool for you to post it Ruce. And good that no DM found you, last time Jud was on his speedo in Cordor, Saris had flowers and jewels all over him... I wonder why the DM lost such an interesting opportunity.

:twisted:


Jewels what sort of j--you know what.. nevermind.

And the DMs should get spimpy outfits to embarrass Uce.. then again I'd say he can't be embarrassed, as he posted that cat image, which rocks btw. I think they met their AFK match.
Author:  BlackDahlya [ Sun, Feb 15 2009, 1:44 AM ]
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I usually send Tells to the AFKer - since the Tell has a bright green text. If they respond, good. If not, I wait some 15 minutes. If nothing happens, I leave another tell saying I went on with my business and send a note on the DM channel saying that such PC might be AFK.

I think I did that only twice, though.

However, before doing all of this, I check to see if the server is full. If it's not, I don't bother.

A DM told me once that they don't boot a player for AFKness out of the blue. They also send Tells to said player and also wait for some 15 minutes before booting if no reply comes.
Author:  This Means War [ Sun, Feb 15 2009, 6:16 AM ]
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BlackDahlya wrote:
A DM told me once that they don't boot a player for AFKness out of the blue. They also send Tells to said player and also wait for some 15 minutes before booting if no reply comes.


If that's'a comment to my comment, all I can say is the DM at the time either didn't know that or forgot it.

Granted, I suppose we already have an auto-boot timer. Problem? It's only once every four hours, which I think most of us would agree is too short, rather than too long.
Author:  Cori [ Sun, Feb 15 2009, 6:53 AM ]
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Well, we're an RP server, right?

So, DM's, do your thing, even with...nay...*especially* with afk folks.

Since it'd be hard to get a response out of them for a back and forth rp, go with rp that you can totally control the flow of. Say, the pc gets knocked out with a mighty hit to the head, and is then robbed blind by bandits.

:twisted:
Author:  Yurell [ Sun, Feb 15 2009, 7:12 AM ]
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Get kidnapped by an insane mage that wants to see if his spell of Gender Switching works.
Author:  Brown Blur [ Sun, Feb 15 2009, 7:54 AM ]
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I reported some Dwarf char for afk once......the trouble is, on this occasion, the DM stripped the Dwarf naked, relocated him to a more prominent location in Bendir, and added lights, butterflies as if flies buzzing round him, etc, etc..... Unfortunately, said DM also gave a server shout that attracted all kinds of silliness to Bendir (not that I mind a bit of silliness, but, well......meh...)

However, undeterred, I still report AFK-ers when server is full or near-full though.

(There was also a time on a Sunday evening when Uberuce had imbibed well, rather than wisely (at least, I assume so...he was perfectly coherent beforehand, but then was unresponsive for nearly an hour, as I recall) but, alas, no DM was on).
Author:  Selvec Darkon [ Sun, Feb 15 2009, 9:39 AM ]
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Uberuce wrote:
Selvec Darkon wrote:
Never done that, always had trouble imagining how someone could fall asleep on there keyboard. Be so uncomfortable.
My neck felt like Chuck Norris had karate chopped it.

With the third fist in his beard?
Author:  Hurk [ Sat, Mar 07 2009, 1:41 AM ]
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Don't see why more people don't just play on B and save their fingers the spasmy cramping of login spamming.
Author:  Lord-Hadeis [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 13:36 PM ]
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quite frankly any such a afk detect script can be easily by passed with anyone still having some logo techniek lying around. It's easy to have the mouse move or some simple commands being used.

And I to have been guilty of sleeping on my keyboard, though not yet so on Amia. Though I do tend to loose most sense of sentible typing after 04.00 at night, but then that only deepens the RP of one of my characters, that doesn't make much sense at the best of times.
Author:  Yurell [ Sun, Mar 08 2009, 13:41 PM ]
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Stand against a wall and leave a book on your mouse? It's how I levelled in Oblivion >.>
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