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I wanna see funnel web! Don't make me create a druid!

Create a Druid or you know. . .open the bloody toolset.

I figured out how to add the haks, and I'm reasonably sure I got them all, but I still can't see any funnelweb spider.

You need to click a Creature; open properties, and scroll down the Creature list untill you find the funnellweb. They aren't in the Custom toolset on the side. . . lemme see if i can post a screen. And mosh can tell me if i posted the wrong

This one, right?

Does this mean a throrough rework of the animal companions? Like, really big changes for badgers, hawks and the wolf?

QPR wrote:

Does this mean a throrough rework of the animal companions? Like, really big changes for badgers, hawks and the wolf?

Quite big, yes.

All companions should now be just as strong (that is if they are used in their specific field: a disabler against undead is not going to work as good as the cannon, etc)

TormakSaber wrote:

180 seconds is 18 rounds and more than enough time to make mincemeat of the opposition.

Ur, 180 seconds is 30 rounds and it's a bit too short, since you can avoid the EDK way too easily. Spending two pre-epic feats and one epic is a lousy trade for an EDK that lasts turns/level.

I wouldn't mind making EDK last double the time it does now.

And yush, the changes for the companions are superbig and awesome, in my opinion. Makes them all rather equal. A bear might be better in one build, whereas the hawk is better in another. Nicely balanced and I hope you lot will use all of them.

I can so see the coming "Adventures of Valygar and the mineature-super-giant-space-badger"

Can't wait

MoshingChris wrote:

Yes heap your accolades on me and the Crew!

Yes, yes. My appologies for hijacking the thread. Let me be clear on one thing, Moshing is doing an awesome job and I'm thrilled to see what's next.

QPR wrote:

Does this mean a throrough rework of the animal companions? Like, really big changes for badgers, hawks and the wolf?

Yes.

The yawning chasm between the best and worst of them should be lessened a great deal. As indicated, they aren't in any way identical and will each have their own flavor and set of attributes but within the bounds of their purpose should be quite handy. I fully expect to see a wider diversity of selections in use once this goes in. Don't disappoint me you lot! Mosh put an extraordinary effort into the creative process and the actual rebuild of these and if I don't see a bunch of different companions roaming around out there enhancing everyone's RP............well just trust me, you don't wanna go there.

Just a random thought falling into place. Is this a test run for the Shifter changes too? And is that closer to fruition with these new changes?

Bravo21 wrote:

Just a random thought falling into place. Is this a test run for the Shifter changes too? And is that closer to fruition with these new changes?

These changes have less than 0 effect on any shifter progress. Two very different teams working on them.

but the shifter changes are very close too; yes.
Last test I did, I did not see any bugs anymore... (cross fingers i did not miss any) but there's some minor issues left to take care of balance wise.

The short answer is: It is a good day to be a druid?

Theories and guessings

Githzerai Savant I think... The third one from the left. Looks like a meleer... but im guessing some type of caster. Hopefully not a caster, because i know by experience that caster NPC's ...er...well, they're good until their spells run out.
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This baby must be the Good Outsider, Arcadian avengers got two swords and are angel like with wings.
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Marut Inevitable wrote:

These represent the ineluctability of death. They hunt for those who either extend their lifespan unnaturally (such as liches and maybe elans) or those who commit extreme acts to keep themselves from death (such as sacrificing hundreds of others to save themselves from a plague). Maruts resemble muscular humanoids made of polished black metal, and typically use their fists in battle.

Im guessing this is ...the big fatty one. Yeah, it's the only "muscular" unarmed thing i found. But im kinda unsure about the claws on the feet.

Githzerai is the gray-skinned elf with rags on its arms, yeah. Savant is a psionic specialization/type, I think. Githzerai are monks and psionics, typically, so I guess that's something to expect.

Tsk, my three summon re-designs are not on that screeny.

woo! now my cleric can have a his demon-construct retriever given to him for his service to selvetarm!

once i make the request, that is.

So for those of us that liked the old spider companion (the black and green one), is there any way to get that back? Or are we now required to either change RP or pay DCs for a reskin of our once-black-and-green spider?

Way to break it chris!

Greater Planar Binding summons nothing, and Gate still gets a White Slaadi.. and it felt like a VERY long 360 seconds..

This is for Neutral, mind. Wizard.

I take it back, Greater Planar Binding works, summons a Green as expected. I MIGHT have clicked on my pixie when i tried to cast it the first time.. or somehow stoped it from casting *shrug*

Hrrmmm Last Gate is a White Slaadi still Xenos.

Oooo so.. changes with lvl then, got it!

Anade_Evriana wrote:

So for those of us that liked the old spider companion (the black and green one), is there any way to get that back? Or are we now required to either change RP or pay DCs for a reskin of our once-black-and-green spider?

Check with a DM via the standard request things, and say that I think in this case it should be a free reskin. Mind I'm not the authority on this.

The Corruptor of Fate is the one with the yellow clawed feet, I imagine.

The blue hooded thing is what is the Inevitable, I'd imagine. It looks construct-ish, but doesn't resemble a Marut Inevitable. A Kolyarut one, maybe though, but those supposedly use swords. Could still be one though.

I know what they all arreee~

Immolation scores 1 point and then loses 1 point.

xD Apparent from the Abhorrent spam that I got from four players when I logged in today this has been fun!

I can't for the love of god imagine what that horned purple guy is.

A bit more bling.

*Tease*

Where can you see these new models?

I imagine that the big guy is an excellent Melee guy.

Sylfwe wrote:

Where can you see these new models?

In game!

New Erinyes and Succubus:

But guys... Which summon would be best for Druid RP, i wonder...

Depends on the druid, really.

Sure does depend on the Druid.

P.S. The designs looks pretty neat!

Heh. Well, the sirrush sure fit's my druid... thank you Developers for these amazing summons!

Spoiler - Two of the Summons are -not- on that screenshot. :twisted:

Two of huh?

Expect balancing.

Wot? But they were tested massively... werent' they

It's exceedingly difficult to test the summons themselves when not in the actual situations they'll be used in, such as parties, different builds, etc.

Alright, so the epic BG summon was modified ? Mine LE used to cast blind DC 53. And now, it's not often and it's DC 33. Also, I cannot increase his Dex because It seems it was blocked. If my opinion can count, I would like to say that these modifications related to the epic BG summon (mostly NE, because I don't know about the others) were not necessary. Just that mass blind would work. Also, If possible, could I see via PM what the others alignment could get related to summons ? Mostly what they can do/cast.

oh comeon.. you can't say that a mass blind with a DC of 53 was Ok?

Ridiculous!

Very_Svensk wrote:

oh comeon.. you can't say that a mass blind with a DC of 53 was Ok?

Ridiculous!

In PvP it would take like... 4-5s, as a mate told me before. Mostly It helps in PvM. Also, in my opinion, that's the most important thing on BGs build, since he fails in comparison to others builds.

But It's just a point of view. I wouldn't consider a super smith evil/good 250 damage or higher so funny either.

A DC of 53....

I mean seriously. It's ...Epic. Not even my Old Sorcerer, with 46Charisma(maxed) And epic spell focus got that high

Very_Svensk wrote:

A DC of 53....

I mean seriously. It's ...Epic. Not even my Old Sorcerer, with 46Charisma(maxed) And epic spell focus got that high

Indeed. It's the Epic Blackguard summon.

That's the only good thing he can cast. I'm sure your old sorcerer can cast much others cool things.

alamut wrote:

Indeed. It's the Epic Blackguard summon.

It was the epic blackguard summon, you mean.

Alright, I don't want to pollute here with my complains of questions about it. Do I have to open another post or may I continue ?

That NE summon needed to be nerfed, it had 80 fucking charisma and more feats than a human pure level 30 fighter, a +5 unlimited ammo crossbow, monkspeed, 10 blinds, 25 maxed magic missiles, could buff you with flame weapon, improved invis, freedom, and more, had a ridiculous DC Mass Blind/Deaf.

Th CE summon on the other hand was a dual weilding rogue without skill points and wuthout weapon Finesse.

No surprise, the maker played an NE blackguard.

Summons: Animal Companions, Planar Spells and Something Nice

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