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Herra Tutteri
 
PostPosted: Tue, Jan 22 2008, 9:46 AM 

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Silvarus wrote:
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Waiting room is one option to solve this. That's Disco's job, though.
If given port-to-afk-room-widgets in addition to it as login room, we'd have the problem solved.


Would that waiting room be like... another Entry with a mirror and everybody stands there, ready to rush inside the mirror when a spot is open?

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PostPosted: Tue, Jan 22 2008, 10:51 AM 

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I sometimes go AFK for food, but I eat quick and am back in about 7mins, is this bad? (I play during 50/75 time)

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PostPosted: Tue, Jan 22 2008, 11:15 AM 

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Herra Tutteri wrote:
Silvarus wrote:
Nekhy wrote:
Waiting room is one option to solve this. That's Disco's job, though.
If given port-to-afk-room-widgets in addition to it as login room, we'd have the problem solved.


Would that waiting room be like... another Entry with a mirror and everybody stands there, ready to rush inside the mirror when a spot is open?
Pretty much so I think.

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Herra Tutteri
 
PostPosted: Tue, Jan 22 2008, 11:33 AM 

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Silvarus wrote:
Herra Tutteri wrote:
Silvarus wrote:
Nekhy wrote:
Waiting room is one option to solve this. That's Disco's job, though.
If given port-to-afk-room-widgets in addition to it as login room, we'd have the problem solved.


Would that waiting room be like... another Entry with a mirror and everybody stands there, ready to rush inside the mirror when a spot is open?
Pretty much so I think.


Glad Hunie's got Boots of Urgency and Grandfather's Pocket Watch.

I can spam Haste at least for a moment.

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Dakotaen
 
PostPosted: Tue, Jan 22 2008, 12:12 PM 

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Herra Tutteri wrote:
Silvarus wrote:
Nekhy wrote:
Waiting room is one option to solve this. That's Disco's job, though.
If given port-to-afk-room-widgets in addition to it as login room, we'd have the problem solved.


Would that waiting room be like... another Entry with a mirror and everybody stands there, ready to rush inside the mirror when a spot is open?


I think the original plan was something like, adding each player to a list, and then let them inside when it's their turn. Problem is, however, that people could be AFK when that happens.

I suppose it could be made so that you'd get a message about it being your turn, and you'd have 5-10 seconds to press "GO!" or something.

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Herra Tutteri
 
PostPosted: Tue, Jan 22 2008, 14:03 PM 

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Dakotaen wrote:
Herra Tutteri wrote:
Silvarus wrote:
Nekhy wrote:
Waiting room is one option to solve this. That's Disco's job, though.
If given port-to-afk-room-widgets in addition to it as login room, we'd have the problem solved.


Would that waiting room be like... another Entry with a mirror and everybody stands there, ready to rush inside the mirror when a spot is open?


I think the original plan was something like, adding each player to a list, and then let them inside when it's their turn. Problem is, however, that people could be AFK when that happens.

I suppose it could be made so that you'd get a message about it being your turn, and you'd have 5-10 seconds to press "GO!" or something.


Sounds like a useful idea.

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PostPosted: Tue, Jan 22 2008, 14:27 PM 

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Someone in the quote pyramid wrote:
I think the original plan was something like, adding each player to a list, and then let them inside when it's their turn. Problem is, however, that people could be AFK when that happens.


Add a temporaty widget which executes the 'move' script when the server is ready. When its the pc's turn to join it gives a message "Oi, git use your widget" and if it aint used in a certain amount of time, kick him/her and let next chap on

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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 05 2008, 1:03 AM 

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whoever is being a prick right now that is taking a server slot...that is very rude


 
      
Electric Zombie
 
PostPosted: Tue, Feb 05 2008, 4:44 AM 

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Can you tell the difference between someone sitting in the character selection, and someone creating a new character?


 
      
Electric Zombie
 
PostPosted: Tue, Feb 05 2008, 4:45 AM 

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The script should take into account people messaging. You can RP while not moving for quite a while, especially if you're in a tavern.


 
      
Dwagin
 
PostPosted: Tue, Feb 05 2008, 6:48 AM 

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Heartbeat scripts like this cause the nwserver.exe to puke on itself.

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BlackDahlya
 
PostPosted: Mon, Feb 18 2008, 20:49 PM 

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*Bumping*

Did you find a way to fix/stop this, Nekhy? Or did you change your mind?

Just checking, since I took some 20-25 minutes to spam DC. Usually, I wait the next reset even if it's within 3 hours, but today I needed to get on anyway for a RP and almost lost my chance to do that RP.

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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 18 2008, 20:59 PM 

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Location: Was your PMS supposed to be funny or mean? It was NOT helpful!

I love sitting there. All my friends are there and they never get to meet each other in-game.

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Dev Disco
 
PostPosted: Mon, Feb 18 2008, 21:02 PM 

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It's a chicken-egg problem now. If I implement this before 1.69 comes out I will be very sorry for myself as I have two modules to check instead of one. I don't know when it comes out, though, but it seems to be quite near. Not that anything is going to happen in the next 10 days.

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BlackDahlya
 
PostPosted: Mon, Feb 18 2008, 21:05 PM 

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Oh, right. Must be my insomnia acting up.

I should have remembered about the server split, Disco.

Nevermind I asked.

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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 18 2008, 21:26 PM 

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IronAngel wrote:
No offence, folks, but get a grip: Half an hour of your life isn't worth batting an eyelid for.


your obviously not "time poor "then Iron Half an hour of my life is something really special, andf I am ever so greatful after everything I have been through to have it. not matter the pain.


 
      
Dev Disco
 
PostPosted: Mon, Feb 18 2008, 21:30 PM 

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So... what's your suggested course of action?

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Dakotaen
 
PostPosted: Mon, Feb 18 2008, 21:35 PM 

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DM Disco wrote:
So... what's your suggested course of action?


Enjoy your vacation, drag 1.69 out of BioWare, split the server.

I'm very serious when saying that if the split goes as well as I hope, I will hunt you down, chicken-man, and drag your ass to Vegas to marry you.

Be warned, and...

..Be afraid. Be -very- afraid.

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Dev Disco
 
PostPosted: Mon, Feb 18 2008, 21:40 PM 

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I am the Head DM's property, so I guess you should be more afraid.

I was asking REP, though.

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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 18 2008, 21:43 PM 

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Well since I was voted on the Amia as a spammer.. I decdied to live up to my name. but I know when I'm trying to log back I prested DC once, and flick back to the forums, I would hate to be banned because I'm posting on the forums, not relising I was logged in.


 
      
Dev Disco
 
PostPosted: Mon, Feb 18 2008, 21:50 PM 

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Umm... I don't now what question you are answering, but I doubt it's mine.

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PostPosted: Wed, Jun 25 2008, 19:40 PM 

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Bumping an old thread just 'cause I want more people to know this.

One reason for people to sit at the log in screen is *waits until the audience is listening* to check what levels people are so they can contact them with another character they have logged in with on another computer. I found out that one today. I think it's so bad behaviour so I haven't got words for it.


 
      
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PostPosted: Wed, Jun 25 2008, 19:51 PM 

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Really? How many folks have two CD-keys and two separate computers with unrelated IPs? I thought it was relatively easy to see, for the Devs, who shares connections.

If it's really so.. well, that sucks. But I wouldn't count on many people doing it.


 
      
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PostPosted: Wed, Jun 25 2008, 20:15 PM 

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Ha, I didn't even know this was happening. Show's you how little this has effected my amian experience.

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PostPosted: Wed, Jun 25 2008, 21:12 PM 

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I know this is old, but heres my tactic and I'll explain it - I do not think I do anything wrong by it however, and it's nifty. Saves the server strain if everybody is not logging in and being booted and logging in etcetc. Of course, we need a few people to do that, but this way I think, is much more elegant

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Set internets to 'Amia messenger page'

Refresh internets until peoples start appearing

Log in to Amia!

Warning, if leaving third stage too long, bannage likely by angry fowl

With regard to hanging in the thingy when the server is full. You sir/madam are an utter Sugar honey Iced Tea

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Dev Disco
 
PostPosted: Wed, Jun 25 2008, 21:34 PM 

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It's indeed a bit suspicious that at this moment there are 66 people in game and 71 people online...

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hendrack
 
PostPosted: Wed, Jun 25 2008, 22:56 PM 

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Its also interesting to see when the server is full players on the server have enough time to write in the forums too. Or they are just gifted with multitasking.


 
      
Estara
 
PostPosted: Wed, Jun 25 2008, 23:00 PM 



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I can multi-task quite well in that manner, actually. No, seriously.. I just type fast, or sometimes I'm playing someone who doesn't talk the most. (Imagine that!) :)


 
      
Dwagin
 
PostPosted: Thu, Jun 26 2008, 18:43 PM 

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Back when I was playing, say, Xyrkha, I had alot of time on my hands. Because the merchant thing had big lulls.

I'm sad this is still a problem.

I hope you isolate the folks doing this.

Though, admittedly I have been known to spend 30 minutes designing a character.

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Daring Rooster
 
PostPosted: Fri, Jun 27 2008, 1:09 AM 

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Just a friendly suggestion, but why not do the character creation in SP first - then just recreate it on the server?

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PostPosted: Wed, Jul 02 2008, 23:10 PM 

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Daring Rooster wrote:
Just a friendly suggestion, but why not do the character creation in SP first - then just recreate it on the server?


Yup and type out the bio/history in notepad. There is no reason for a character to take more than 3 minutes to create if your smarter than your average bear.

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PostPosted: Wed, Jul 02 2008, 23:47 PM 

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MoshingChris wrote:
Daring Rooster wrote:
Just a friendly suggestion, but why not do the character creation in SP first - then just recreate it on the server?


Yup and type out the bio/history in notepad. There is no reason for a character to take more than 3 minutes to create if your smarter than your average bear.


But sadly... there are people who arent smarter then the average bear >.> Or bug.

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Maverick00053 wrote:
MoshingChris wrote:
Daring Rooster wrote:
Just a friendly suggestion, but why not do the character creation in SP first - then just recreate it on the server?


Yup and type out the bio/history in notepad. There is no reason for a character to take more than 3 minutes to create if your smarter than your average bear.


But sadly... there are people who arent smarter then the average bear >.> Or bug.


Perhaps someone needs to create a sticky-able topic on streamlining character creation for as to make a better more palatable chew toy for DM's?

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PostPosted: Thu, Jul 03 2008, 7:06 AM 



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Silvarus wrote:
Yeah, login when with a lot of pondering takes like 20secs max. Its different when making a char though. That can take AGES.


Yeah, and if your making a subrace character and number crunching with the ability stats to figure out what your going to end up with once you talk to the subrace ghost, takes a bit of time


 
      
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PostPosted: Thu, Jul 03 2008, 8:49 AM 

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And don't forget if you're playing a rogue with a decent int, you're going to have to spend time allocating skillpoints. Most of the time I just bank mine and save allocation until level 2 which is taken ingame.

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PostPosted: Thu, Jul 03 2008, 15:19 PM 

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I suppose we could...smite people. Disco has that power, right? I mean, he's angry god-like chicken. Surely he can smite people. Or...erm...lay enormous eggs on their heads. ....something along those lines, yes. Yes! After taking the time to read this entire bastardly thing, I say smite people and be done with it! *goes off to take pictures of the drooling not-smarter-than-your-average-bear folks*

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PostPosted: Thu, Jul 03 2008, 17:41 PM 

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The way I see it is if you're taking up a slot by creating a character, you're at least doing something constructive with the active intention to play. As long as you're actively working on character creation, you're putting your server slot to good use. The bad eggs are the ones who sit at the character selection screen while they walk the dog, go out to eat dinner, or get distracted by their sock puppet collection.

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Dwagin
 
PostPosted: Sat, Aug 02 2008, 3:32 AM 

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Of recent I've noticed some things that have led me to believe that some are doing this again.

Its considerate to log off and try to get in later if you know you're going to be afk for a bit.

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Nekhy
 
PostPosted: Sat, Aug 02 2008, 5:43 AM 



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Yups. I've noticed the same. There's at least 6-7 people who do this a lot.


 
      
Herra Tutteri
 
PostPosted: Sat, Aug 02 2008, 7:21 AM 

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Okay, I think it's time you people start handing out cold, slimy herrings and give each DM a permission to slap those AFK lurking vandals around the face with it.

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Nekhy
 
PostPosted: Sat, Aug 02 2008, 7:28 AM 



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Catching who exactly they are is a bit tricky. I wish I had a straight list to compare the NWserver players online list and Amia's own list... that'd do the trick.


 
      
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PostPosted: Sat, Aug 02 2008, 15:27 PM 

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555444333 wrote:
Frankly, if the method is block and then kick anyone who logs in after the servers locked, you can just kiss goodbye to Amia. This might serve as a one time warning, but this really has to be the most inefficient way to organise something like this, and at this rate, the playerbase will just get tired of 'improvement measures' such as this.

I've been pretty vocal in my opposition as you've noticed. Why? Well, I have better things to do, than wait for two slimy gits who took it upon themselves to block severslots, to log in, so Nekhy can boot and ban then.



I think your missing the point... Stop being a silly goose and voice your opinion in such a way that it is not flame bait. I'm fairly certain that if you did, it would not be 'conveniently overlooked'/disregarded out right for the sake of the point of this post being made.
Have a Nice Day.


 
      
Dwagin
 
PostPosted: Sat, Aug 02 2008, 18:47 PM 

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Nekhy wrote:
Catching who exactly they are is a bit tricky. I wish I had a straight list to compare the NWserver players online list and Amia's own list... that'd do the trick.



Can't you just compare the Amia messenger list to the list of people in game vs the server list? that'd give it to you lickty split, no?

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Nekhy
 
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I've a better list at my disposal, as have all DMs, but the issue is the NWserver's list. It scrolls up at random speed and is very tiny to look at, plus I can't order it by name or anything else. That is the weak link here.


 
      
ZoltanTheRed
 
PostPosted: Sat, Aug 02 2008, 20:15 PM 

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yes.please dont do that.I wait 15 mins to an hr for a slot to open -.-.wich sucks.


 
      
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PostPosted: Sun, Aug 03 2008, 12:53 PM 



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After a reset the server boots you if you try to connect too early.

What I do is connect to the server click on my character and go do something for like 5 minutes. This way when I log in I won't be booted but won't be upsurged by people spamming to get in RIGHT as it stops booting. So I think I take up a slot without taxing the server.

Is this unethical?


 
      
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PostPosted: Sun, Aug 03 2008, 14:15 PM 

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I doubt that this is unethical here because everyonewants to get on...

However if you do this when the servers is at 75/75 then it is bad.

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Dwagin
 
PostPosted: Sun, Aug 03 2008, 17:37 PM 

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Phantom-D wrote:
After a reset the server boots you if you try to connect too early.

What I do is connect to the server click on my character and go do something for like 5 minutes. This way when I log in I won't be booted but won't be upsurged by people spamming to get in RIGHT as it stops booting. So I think I take up a slot without taxing the server.

Is this unethical?



Thats fine, heck, when the server restarts, I give it 1-2 minutes by stalking into gamespy to chat at some people in the RP room, then log on to the screen, sometimes I'll just directly log to the screen, then get a sandwhich or a drink or something, since it takes maybe a minute for me to make it.. set down with it at the desk and log in.. and eat it while RPing in Cordor east for the first few minutes.

Its people that log in and sit there and go have sex, or do something that takes 30+ minutes (other than designing characters mind you). Just to 'assure themselves an easy spot' when they get back, and deprive others from it that are problematic.

I don't think its such a big deal when the server's at 30/75 in oceanic times sometimes. But doing it during primetime for EU or USA is downright naughty.

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Silvarus
 
PostPosted: Sun, Aug 03 2008, 17:55 PM 

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Indeed. The server was at 76/75 again tonight... while the website was at 70/75. -_-

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Dwagin
 
PostPosted: Mon, Aug 04 2008, 1:10 AM 

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Dont forget to add DM's to it.

Also, typically its understandable to see a 1 or 2 digit difference due to character design..but not that much this long, this often.

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