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Blink
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Jehran wrote: The Great Equalizer wrote: If the Scroll of Alternative Summoning is dropped into your inventory when you take Epic Mummy Dust, then is that to say that it won't be retroactive? Also if you just get dropped to one XP below level (or just level up normally) and take the level it will be given to you (even if its not the level you took Epic Mummy Dust) Doesn't work. I used the scroll but didn't read the description too good. Now I am stuck with some magical beast. Can a DM remove the scroll and drop me a level (so i can take the feat again) and thus turn my summon back into the default undead shape? Just dropping and taking the feat all over again didn't work. The DM told me to get it reskinned with DC's. So, I'll have to pay DC's to make my summon back to it's natural form. o.O THat's just as lame as me using the scroll without reading the description. Please help me out. All I want is my summon to be undead, as the default Amia spell. Is there a solution? Removed by BrainSplitter - Keep targetted comments out of the public forums, please. If you have a problem with a DM's conduct, please PM it to Nekhbet as the Head DM, with cited evidence.
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Blink
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Posted: Sun, Jun 13 2010, 10:36 AM |
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I just hope there's a solution to this problem.
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Sun, Jun 13 2010, 10:47 AM |
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A new scroll can be given without the need for a Delevel. DM just needs to make sure the original scroll is removed before the new scroll is given.
Requests go through the correct request form as I highlighted in the opening post.
-If- any DM is changing scrolls without having a request put through the DM boards et al for anyone other than myself or a Tester it completely defeats the purpose of the scrolls.
I will note you are the fourth person I've witnessed requesting to change from Magical Beast to something else or default back to undead. This has only been occurring since I fixed the Sirrush. This is the reason that any change requests look immensely suspect.
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Blink
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Posted: Sun, Jun 13 2010, 10:54 AM |
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So, can I can log on and ask the DM right?
Thanks!
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hendrack
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Posted: Sun, Jun 13 2010, 11:45 AM |
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No, you have to put up a request in the request forum.
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Blink
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Posted: Sun, Jun 13 2010, 11:48 AM |
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So I did. 
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Blink
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Posted: Sun, Jun 13 2010, 12:37 PM |
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MoshingChris wrote:
I will note you are the fourth person I've witnessed requesting to change from Magical Beast to something else or default back to undead. This has only been occurring since I fixed the Sirrush. This is the reason that any change requests look immensely suspect.
I don't know anything about a "fix" by the way, since I only took the feat yesterday or the day before... It's not a power issue here... The summon rocks really, I just like the undead better.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Mon, Jun 14 2010, 3:04 AM |
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Then why didn't you select the undead when you levelled up? If undead fits your character better then... well.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Jun 14 2010, 8:21 AM |
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Trial and Error. Sounds like an obvious case of it.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Mon, Jun 14 2010, 9:51 AM |
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Trial and error for what, though? That only matters if you're only trying to pick the best summon for how strong it is. You can look at a list and easy pick which bests fits your PC's RP though, which is why we added these changes.
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Jun 14 2010, 13:57 PM |
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Aye. For what, though. @blink - Take it from a player whom have tested all the mummy dust variants. I've got 7 Epic casters; and i can safely witness that they're all equally good. They have strong sides and downsides; but ...It all comes down to the fact that, this is a Roleplaying enviroment, and you will only suffer yourself if you "try" to pick the best one 'Statwise'.
This is because that #1 - Mosh is an excellent balancer in terms of Critters. He can guarantee, that its the same shit, just different package.
#2 - People 'Will' look down upon you if you grab, say ...Mummy dust on a Druid. For the sole fact that it's the best statwise.
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Blink
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Posted: Mon, Jun 14 2010, 16:50 PM |
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Why do you think this is a "power issue"? I already stated that it's not, and if the monsters are balanced it shouldn't matter if I would like to have it changed back right?
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Mobile_Svensk
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Posted: Mon, Jun 14 2010, 16:53 PM |
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Well, Yes. It shouldn't matter... But there's a lot of people out there that... aren't entirely honest.
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Blink
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Posted: Mon, Jun 14 2010, 16:57 PM |
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Well I am, and my necromancer sorcerer should summon an undead imo.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Tue, Jun 15 2010, 7:07 AM |
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So why didn't you select it when you levelled up, then?
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Murex
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Posted: Wed, Jun 23 2010, 6:48 AM |
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Question-
If I choose the Air elemental and get a reskin to make it appear as a large Fire Elemental, it would have odd abilities for something that appears as a Fire Elemental, right?
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Wed, Jun 23 2010, 6:58 AM |
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Nope I left the abilities fairly vanilla for exactly that reason.
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Murex
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Posted: Wed, Jun 23 2010, 8:16 AM |
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MoshingChris wrote: Nope I left the abilities fairly vanilla for exactly that reason. Ooh, nice. Thanks. 
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Murex
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Posted: Sun, Jun 27 2010, 14:38 PM |
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One more question-
Is the elemental immune to crits?
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Drannok
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Posted: Sun, Jun 27 2010, 15:53 PM |
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Yes.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sun, Jun 27 2010, 21:57 PM |
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All elementals are sneak and crit immune.
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Murex
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Posted: Sun, Jun 27 2010, 22:30 PM |
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TormakSaber wrote: All elementals are sneak and crit immune. I thought so, but wasn't sure. Thanks for re-affirming that. 
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xordae
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Posted: Mon, Jun 28 2010, 3:30 AM |
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Do I have to level up for the Bear skin to change to Grizzly? My Druid is already lvl 28, but hasn't levelled since the changes came in effect.
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Mon, Jun 28 2010, 4:35 AM |
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If its not changed yet I would say yes you do have to level up, level down.
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Murex
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Posted: Sun, Jul 11 2010, 8:23 AM |
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Okay, My character will require a reskin for his epic elemental to look like a giant Fire Elemental to better fit him rp wise.
My question is this: Do I need 10 DCs for a reskin if it's just for the summon to look like a large Fire Elemental instead of a large Air elemental?
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ILoveIceCream
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Posted: Sun, Jul 11 2010, 8:32 AM |
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MoshingChris
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Posted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 0:41 AM |
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Murex wrote: Okay, My character will require a reskin for his epic elemental to look like a giant Fire Elemental to better fit him rp wise.
My question is this: Do I need 10 DCs for a reskin if it's just for the summon to look like a large Fire Elemental instead of a large Air elemental? No fairly about it, reskins of summons cost exactly what they did before the change and thats 10 DC's + Request + RP.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 2:08 AM |
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Yep.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 4:33 AM |
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You mean I cant just ask 1 dm to get a scroll, then try another dm, and so forth till I get the strongest summon? Thats BS, I want a powerbuild damnit! I'll fit my rp around it! Ugh!
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Dramatic_Prince
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Posted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 11:50 AM |
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you could powerlevel a few characters to try them all out.
It takes less than a week to hit epic levels.
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 18:23 PM |
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Silly bumhead Pigeon, use a thing called common sense to solve what they're good for.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 19:33 PM |
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I was poking fun at others... sheesh
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 19:47 PM |
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I'll be poking fun at your hole soon!
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 20:06 PM |
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Dramatic_Prince wrote: you could powerlevel a few characters to try them all out.
It takes less than a week to hit epic levels. I hate you for encouraging this and I want to see a soft cap implemented now to force you skags to roleplay before hitting max level since that's all you care about.
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Murex
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Posted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 22:29 PM |
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One more question: If I plan on getting my epic summon reskined, should that character be L30 before that happens? Uncle-Opustus wrote: I'll be poking fun at your hole soon! That sounds gross. 
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 22:41 PM |
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Murex wrote: One more question: If I plan on getting my epic summon reskined, should that character be L30 before that happens? It is actually adviced you do the request before taking Epic Mummy Dust at all, so it won't come as a disappointment if it doesn't get approved. _________________ UCE THIS, YOU COW.
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Blackdragon12121
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Posted: Mon, Jul 12 2010, 22:45 PM |
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Whatever did happen to that level cap idea??
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Jyro X
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Posted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 1:50 AM |
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TormakSaber wrote: I hate you for encouraging this and I want to see a soft cap implemented now to force you skags to roleplay before hitting max level since that's all you care about. "All right! I'm max level and epic'd out now! Let's go "RP" and pick some fights to stir up PvP! Hurr hurr."  _________________  
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Grymia
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Posted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 1:53 AM |
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Jyro X
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Posted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 1:55 AM |
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Posted: Tue, Jul 13 2010, 2:01 AM |
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TormakSaber wrote: Dramatic_Prince wrote: you could powerlevel a few characters to try them all out.
It takes less than a week to hit epic levels. I hate you for encouraging this and I want to see a soft cap implemented now to force you skags to roleplay before hitting max level since that's all you care about. I'd support a softcap really. There was talk about it sometime ago. Did the team even discuss implementing it? _________________
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Charles1810
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Posted: Wed, Jul 28 2010, 1:44 AM |
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I recall this being mentioned, but are Wizard/Sorc familiars ever getting revamped and changed around?
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Wed, Jul 28 2010, 3:20 AM |
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Done when it's done a.k.a. When Mosh Does It, a.k.a. Mosh isn't around so not right now.
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Charles1810
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Posted: Wed, Jul 28 2010, 3:47 AM |
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Thats cool, I just wanted to make sure I did recall it right and not my imagination. (:
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What the Moon Brings
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Posted: Fri, Aug 06 2010, 1:36 AM |
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Any chance the Eyeball familiar could become a Beholder?
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Dark Immolation
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Posted: Fri, Aug 06 2010, 1:58 AM |
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Likely not. Familiars are generally small (magical)creatures. Beholders are relatively large and as well are fairly advanced in terms of culture, personality. And there's already a beholder summon.
Though I am likely being slightly hypocritical. I've RPed my eyeball as a runt beholder forever >_> *cough* But in my defense, I did go through a huge arc helping him get over the dual personality thing inherent to all beholders.
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BlackDahlya
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Posted: Fri, Aug 06 2010, 2:34 AM |
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I am sorry if this was already asked and answered, but I did not want to read all 5 pages of this discussion.
I have a character that will soon get an Epic Summon and I came here to check what kind of creature she can have.
However, upon reading the main post, I saw that the Epic Summons all need focus in a specific spell school. If I do not have spell focus, I will not be able to change my summon?
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Posted: Fri, Aug 06 2010, 2:40 AM |
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I think you only need the respective spell focii to extended that particular summon. Like necromancy for Sentinel, er...something something conjuration for...something. It's there somehwere. >.>
But yeah, you should still get the summoning book on taking EMD I think. Just it won't have extended duration. Someone correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't taken it on a PC.
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Uncle-Opustus
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Posted: Fri, Aug 06 2010, 16:47 PM |
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The focus in the spell school only extends the duration of your summon from turns to hours. And yush, the book spawns into your inventory once you pick the feat.
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Glyph
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Posted: Fri, Aug 06 2010, 16:59 PM |
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regarding summons, the wood wright -really- doesn't fit glyph for a level 3 summon, at all. being that he's CN and somewhat on the good side of things aswell. does tempus support undead?
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