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TormakSaber
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 20:26 PM |
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere
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Uberuce wrote: Last I looked, it's not just the mostly-metallic nature of the weapons that makes them a no-no, it's part of the Druidic tradition that only the scimmy/dagger/club/staff/spear/sickle/sling/dart are used.
Mielikki's Druids are the inevitable exception. They can use any weapon and medium armour they see the need to, since they're expected to serve as Rangers when things get ugly.
So, if it's a Druid of Mielikki: yes. Otherwise no.
I don't understand why scimmies are okay and bows are not.
The problem Druids have with metal weapons is that they're man made, worked metal. I still don't get why that makes scimitars and spears alright, though, and why bows *aren't* alright.
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Dwagin
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Posted: Tue, Jul 21 2009, 22:10 PM |
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Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Location: The Land of Nod
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Well, I suppose spears could have natural creatures 'claws/teeth' attached to them for tips.
..As for scimitars? Hell if I know, unless its made out a dragon claw shaped into a handle.
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Zante
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 13:44 PM |
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Joined: 06 Jan 2006
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Just happened to talk about this to some people. Can druids use undead shapes, or would that make them fall?
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 14:04 PM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009 Location: London, UK
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Evil Nature gods dont care if you use undead or become undead as far as I know.
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BrainSplitter
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 14:11 PM |
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Joined: 06 Apr 2005 Location: Victoria, Australia
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Zante wrote: Just happened to talk about this to some people. Can druids use undead shapes, or would that make them fall?
They can, however it's something that'd be done under close scrutiny of both the local druidic circles; and divine agents. Depends largely on the purpose.
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IronAngel
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 14:18 PM |
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Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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I guess the real explanation for the weapon restrictions is what GuNz said. It's probably meant to keep druids from being awesome fighters, etc. OOC based, like most game rules, really. In this instance, the IC excuse is just poorer than usual. I wouldn't dwell too much on it, personally: either accept it as "this is how it is" or ignore it. I'm not sure about the extent to which we enforce druidic weapon choices, but we have not enforced the ban against bows, at least. I guess common sense and (possibly) checking with the DMs would work if you wanted to use an unusual weapon and had a reason for it.
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GreatPigeon
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 14:20 PM |
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Joined: 04 May 2009 Location: London, UK
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^^ Haha... to keep them from being awesome fighters.. but yet they can use scimitars the super duper cheese power buiild weapon! *plans a druid fighter*
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IronAngel
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 14:50 PM |
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Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Well, I suppose the rules were designed for low-level 2e PnP adventures, so any comparison to NWN is moot. (Might even be for earlier editions, I don't know about them; at least druidic weapon restrictions are already in place by 2e.)
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exquisitelyme
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 15:37 PM |
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Joined: 26 May 2009
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Well, since the sickle proficiency comes from inspiration in Celtic Lore, I believe they extended the meaning of "weapons that emulate the face of the Great Mother" a.k.a. the Moon, to include the scimitar, which is much more curved as a real weapon than in NWN. Staff, dart, spear, and sling can all have been inspired in Celts as well.
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IronAngel
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Posted: Wed, Jul 22 2009, 15:44 PM |
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Joined: 29 Sep 2005 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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That's probably part of the reason too, yeah. And it has about as much IC relevance as clerics only getting to use blunt weapons. 
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Gunz
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Posted: Thu, Jul 23 2009, 0:10 AM |
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Joined: 01 Jul 2006 Location: The City of Fallen Angels, Ca
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I have to agree about the Bow thing though. It's super stupid that Druids can't use them.
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Estara
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Posted: Fri, Jul 24 2009, 3:02 AM |
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Joined: 23 Feb 2007
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Yeah! So Li'thani does anyway! Because it's stupid!
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