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BloodNAshes
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I don't see what time has to do with anything but okay. I wasn't even asking for myself (the character I think you're talking about is the level he's at because a friend is) as much anyone who just spent a lot of DCs before the change was instituted.
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IronAngel
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Posted: Tue, Dec 01 2009, 18:08 PM |
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Nah. I think we've refrained from giving DC rebuilds recently, because this has been in the works. There's no retroactive reimbrusement (of DCs or levels) because of this. I spent a bunch of DCs to rebuild my PC just before rebuild costs were halved for the first time, too. But that's life, and it can be compared to a product getting a discount after you bought it for the full price. Not to mention the practical impossibility of tracking past rebuilds.
By the way: this new policy also applies to DMs. There are no DM perks related to rebuilding anymore.
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BloodNAshes
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Posted: Tue, Dec 01 2009, 18:13 PM |
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Well, that's good then that everyone is on an even keel now.
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Nekhy
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Posted: Tue, Dec 01 2009, 18:14 PM |
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In general, the policy is "no refunds" in all areas. I might be willing to compromise for someone who just had a DC rebuild a few days ago, but not in cases where something was bought with DCs even before there was any plans for a freebie version of the same. It's a common policy in more serious businesses than Amia, too, mind. Though I doubt there is many who paid for a DC rebuild now. (At least) I've been telling people to put off their rebuild plans for the past month, ever since this plan was realised.
The freebie rate offered is quite a bit more than what DMs have on average used their perk, btw.
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Dwagin
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Posted: Tue, Dec 01 2009, 19:02 PM |
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Location: The Land of Nod
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Yossarin wrote: Yeah, every once in a while we do something generous and good-natured.
Like every time you guys log on to deal with our bull-(censored) while just trying to help us have fun in game, every hour you spend administrating the forums, answering questions and generally volunteering massive amounts of time, and the editing/creation done in the toolset...
Anyways before I get too chocolatey a nose. Awesome change.
You guys really are masochists though.
Less-Than Three.
Edit:
Well Frey already said it, and I responded to Yossi's post before reading the entire thread but whatever, extra praise is warranted says my brainflesh so it shall remain.
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BlackDahlya
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Posted: Tue, Dec 01 2009, 19:19 PM |
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Location: Land of the Scorching Sun, Empowered by Global Warming
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Yay!
These are really good news!
Thank you guys!
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Nekhy
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Posted: Tue, Dec 01 2009, 21:17 PM |
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As it would be an appropriate timing for this kind of thing, it looks like there is some bug with the Rebuilder on B. So better ask the DM for a manual gear transfer, just in case. I already had to dig up one backup, and that's not a particularly enjoyable task for anyone (including the server).
Murphy's Law is the only universal law we can count on, seriously.
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Dwagin
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Posted: Tue, Dec 01 2009, 23:38 PM |
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Location: The Land of Nod
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I love such laws.
Chance of bread falling jam side down is directly proportional to the cost of your carpet.
If it Jams, Force it, if it breaks, it needed fixing anyway!
When working on an automobile and a tool drops it will always roll to the exact center underneath the vehicle.
Every new solution brings a new problem.
Left on their own things tend to go from bad to worse.
To err is human, but to really foul things up requires a computer.
If bridge builders built bridges like programmers wrote code, the very fact that a single woodpecker existed would cause the world to implode.
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Jas
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Posted: Wed, Dec 02 2009, 4:12 AM |
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Just chiming in to say, great improvement and dropping thanks!
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LordAzack
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Posted: Wed, Dec 02 2009, 5:22 AM |
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Nekhy wrote: As it would be an appropriate timing for this kind of thing, it looks like there is some bug with the Rebuilder on B. So better ask the DM for a manual gear transfer, just in case. I already had to dig up one backup, and that's not a particularly enjoyable task for anyone (including the server).
Murphy's Law is the only universal law we can count on, seriously.
Indeed, please follow this advice. Even though its a backup, you may lose some gear. And that just makes baby romulans cry.
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LordAzack
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Posted: Wed, Dec 02 2009, 5:26 AM |
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And by the way Nehky... I LOVE YOU!!!!! You found it, you rock!
Wait, nevermind, that was the old sera... By the way, is it possible to take of of her what im missing on the new one?
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Gunz
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Posted: Wed, Dec 02 2009, 6:59 AM |
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Location: The City of Fallen Angels, Ca
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Dev Disco wrote: Chicken is culinary chewing gum. You may as well eat baked bread with herbs.
Na, bread with herbs is good n' all, but it lacks one thing that makes me feel full and good about myself. I need to know that a creature has lost it's life and is now sitting on my plate or it just feel's.... wrong, you know? There's a comfort, a warm feeling, in knowing something died for you to nom nom. 
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Nekhy
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Posted: Wed, Dec 02 2009, 8:15 AM |
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LordAzack wrote: And by the way Nehky... I LOVE YOU!!!!! You found it, you rock!
Wait, nevermind, that was the old sera... By the way, is it possible to take of of her what im missing on the new one? That was the latest backup I found of her, unfortunately.  o0GuNz_N_RoSeZ0o wrote: Na, bread with herbs is good n' all, but it lacks one thing that makes me feel full and good about myself. I need to know that a creature has lost it's life and is now sitting on my plate or it just feel's.... wrong, you know? There's a comfort, a warm feeling, in knowing something died for you to nom nom. That's not very shocking. I find the amount of cysts, cancers, lesions, necroses and stuff that those chickens you eat had when they were alive a bit more shocking. The idea of eating diseased meat is not very appetising. (they don't have time to remove that sort of stuff before they're made into patties and burgers. a few of the things you learn at agriculture/animal husbandry lessons about the true problems people are having hard time solving)
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Lesquille
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Posted: Wed, Dec 02 2009, 9:56 AM |
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Warning, food rant approaching.
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Nekhy
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Posted: Wed, Dec 02 2009, 10:01 AM |
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Nah, just some countering to the praise for chicken meat. It's the filthiest meat you can possibly eat.
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Swallow the Stars
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Posted: Wed, Dec 02 2009, 12:11 PM |
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Nekhy wrote: Nah, just some countering to the praise for chicken meat. It's the filthiest meat you can possibly eat.
The second sentence had meter and rhyme.
Also: This is an excellent, excellent idea. I just wish I hadn't decided to self rebuild my only two characters who needed them a month or so before this was put into place.
Still.. exciting stuff. Great work, and thank you for the sacrifice. :]
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maglorine
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 1:44 AM |
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If you don't need to change starting classes, abilities, feats and skills can I assume it's simply an xp deduction followed by an xp addition with no gear transfer? I have a pc I'm looking to change a smidgen. Paladin/CoT/Fighter, if that matters.
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BlackDahlya
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 2:31 AM |
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Location: Land of the Scorching Sun, Empowered by Global Warming
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Also, in order to have a brand-new class, feats and skills selections, it is best we make a request through a PM or the Requests forum first, right? With a possible explanation on why the change occurred?
Seems obviously a yes, but I wanted to make sure.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 2:55 AM |
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As Disco said, only the payment end changed, not the standards.
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BlackDahlya
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 3:47 AM |
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It just ocurred to me after talking to a friend on MSN.
A friend on MSN! wrote: I thought the free rebuild only applied if you've never rebuilt a character before
Is that so? Or can it happen to an old character that could have been rebuilt more than once before?
Either I am blind, or there is no such mention on the main post.
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blackvswhite
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 3:58 AM |
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probably only one -free- build per character. probably standard price outside the restrictions of when to get free ones
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 3:59 AM |
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Location: Somewhere
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Um... re-read the topic, it's quite clear. One every 3 months.
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BlackDahlya
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 4:04 AM |
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Aye, I ended up figuring out what could have possibly been the confusion:
Nekhy wrote: Players may opt for a DC paid rebuild or a self-rebuild if they have already used their free rebuild option for an individual character and desire to rebuild again.
After re-reading that, we agreed that my friend was mistaken. I think that she was probably confused with that?
>_>;
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Yurell
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 4:05 AM |
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BlackDahlya wrote: It just ocurred to me after talking to a friend on MSN. A friend on MSN! wrote: I thought the free rebuild only applied if you've never rebuilt a character before Is that so? Or can it happen to an old character that could have been rebuilt more than once before? Either I am blind, or there is no such mention on the main post. You can free rebuild the same character once per year.
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BlackDahlya
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 4:14 AM |
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Yurell wrote: <snip>
You can free rebuild the same character once per year.
Uh, yes. I got it. >_>;;
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Yurell
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 5:16 AM |
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You posted while I was posting >.>
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Jes
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 7:13 AM |
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A friend on MSN! wrote: I thought the free rebuild only applied if you've never rebuilt a character before I know where this came from! It was said in the planning stage, somewhere in the Request forum, in response to AxlLeigh's question about the coming rebuild change. TormakSaber wrote: For you it will be free because it will be your first rebuild.
One little comment from the initial planning stage, I suspect. Perhaps a stipulation that was discarded. But no worries. And at least we know your friend isn't just crazy!  _________________ Login: The Copper Queen
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 7:53 AM |
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First rebuild in the 3 months, I meant.
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Spyonline8000
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 8:12 AM |
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This is probably a stupid question, but rebuilds don't also apply to weapons, do they? If I was going to rebuild my character I might switch his weapon specialization to something else. Only, I've spent a lot of mythals on a decent weapon and don't really want to lose all of that investment if my specialization were to change.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 8:16 AM |
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Location: Somewhere
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No. characters only.
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Dwagin
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 16:29 PM |
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Spyonline8000 wrote: This is probably a stupid question, but rebuilds don't also apply to weapons, do they? If I was going to rebuild my character I might switch his weapon specialization to something else. Only, I've spent a lot of mythals on a decent weapon and don't really want to lose all of that investment if my specialization were to change.
IIRC you can pay DC's to have an item's base type changed. Unless that was taken away from the list of things DC's acceptable property changes can be used for.
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Nekhy
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 16:46 PM |
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Yups, that can be done. But it's never been included in the rebuild prices.
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Xaviera
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Posted: Thu, Dec 03 2009, 22:01 PM |
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Dev Disco wrote: - start this on January 1
- use calendar year
- use calendar quarter
That would mean I could rebuild Bustier somewhere in Q1 2010 and yet again somewhere in Q1 2011 (or later). This means that you could theoretically rebuild the same character once after 9 months, but that's also mean you can't rebuild him for 15 months after that.
Then Yurell is right.
You could do a rebuild on the last day of one quarter (eg. March 31st) and another one (on a different character) on the first day of the next quarter (April 1st).
You can rebuild the same character after 9 months because you could do it on March 31st of 2009 (Q1) and Jan 1st of 2010 (Q1 the following year). You could still do it again 12 months later, though, as opposed to 15 (as far as I can see).
As for the time, I'd guess it's whatever Disco's tool reports it in. GMT, probably. But Yurell's just being nitpicky there _________________  ~Sharess on AmiaWiki~Priestess, politician, prostitute "[They] were moving in on me like Sharessans on a new broad in the bath house" - Tracer BoltAmiaWiki mod (mostly inactive)
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-Cloak-and-Dagger-
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Posted: Fri, Dec 04 2009, 11:20 AM |
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If I rebuild not by making a new character, but just by having my xp taken and given back - losing and regaining the animal companion feat in the process - will my reskin widget still work?
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IronAngel
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Posted: Fri, Dec 04 2009, 14:55 PM |
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No idea, but you won't have to pay for a new one in any case. It's a matter of one or two minutes to set it again.
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Jehran
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Posted: Fri, Dec 04 2009, 20:05 PM |
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-Cloak-and-Dagger- wrote: If I rebuild not by making a new character, but just by having my xp taken and given back - losing and regaining the animal companion feat in the process - will my reskin widget still work?
I rebuilt entirely with a brand new character and still kept my reskinned familiar.
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TormakSaber
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Posted: Sat, Dec 05 2009, 7:27 AM |
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They will still function.
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