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Morene Armande
 
PostPosted: Fri, Jul 24 2009, 21:29 PM 

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I was looking up Vampires on the forgotten realm wiki and it says this:

A new vampire is created when another vampire drains the life out of a living creature.


How does that happen? Because it's not like a vampire kills a sewer rat and the king of spain transforms into a blood sucker : o

I need to know pretty soon, thanks ya'll


 
      
Yossarin
 
PostPosted: Fri, Jul 24 2009, 21:31 PM 



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What you should also know even sooner is that you can't have a PC with vampirism without a formal request, and even then your chances are a teeny fraction above nil.

Just in case. I don't really know why you're asking, but...better safe than sorry. Ignorance is no excuse.


 
      
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PostPosted: Fri, Jul 24 2009, 21:32 PM 

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Be sure to read these threads as well:

http://www.amiaworld.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=16162

http://www.amiaworld.net/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=23129

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PostPosted: Fri, Jul 24 2009, 22:10 PM 

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Vampire is a template you add to a creature who became a Vampire, so, yes in theory it would be possible that there are Rat Vampires.

It can only be applied to himanoids though I think.

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PostPosted: Fri, Jul 24 2009, 22:17 PM 

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Vampires do not make very good PC's in a persistent world like Amia, particularly with its fast paced in game time cycles. Not to mention the distinct lack of direct control as 'offspring' of a vampire.

As outlined below, on top of needing to be wary of Sunlight, adventurerers, and Kelemvorites, there are several issues with attempting to play a PC becoming a vampire, most importantly the bond between the creature and that which created it.

It is quite logical why such PCs are rare to be approved.

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A humanoid or monstrous humanoid slain by a vampire’s energy drain rises as a vampire spawn (see Vampire Spawn on page 253 of the Monster Manual) 1d4 days after burial.

If the vampire instead drains the victim’s Constitution to 0 or lower, the victim returns as a spawn if it had 4 or fewer HD and as a vampire if it had 5 or higher HD. In either case, the new vampire or spawn is under the command of the vampire that created it and remains enslaved until its master’s destruction.


Control

Once undead have created their spawn, they may command these “children” as they see fit. Their power over the spawn they have created remains in effect until their death, at which time all their spawn become free. Spawn in turn have the same capacity to create children in their own image, and they may command those children as they are in turn commanded by their creator.

It is not uncommon for great webs of control to exist in undead hierarchies, reaching back to the oldest, longest surviving undead that initiated the chain. Ultimately, the “heads” of these undead webs may wield great power if they guide their ever-growing family in ways that maximize their strength and minimize their exposure to being found and eliminated by zealous undead hunters.

Usually, even creatures of limited free will come to resent being under the control of another, but this is not true of undead spawn. The act of their creation generates a bond of service and even affection for their creators. While this command can be briefly undermined through a cleric’s turning or rebuking ability, undead always return to the service of their creators if possible.


Affection

Calling any portion of the bond between spawn and creator "affection” may be going too far, but spawn are definitely slavish in their attention to every detail of their creators’ wishes. Spawn never hesitate to take any action commanded by their creators, even if that action leads to certain destruction. However, this “affection” doesn’t necessarily run both ways.

For the most part, spawn creators care little for the fate of those they have created, except so far as it serves a larger plan or generates a body of useful servants. Intelligent undead view their spawn in much the same manner as they view the mindless undead in their employ—expendable. Some undead that retain corporeal bodes and can create spawn (most notably vampires) retain a strong tie to the associations of their life. As such, they may continue to nurture real affection for individuals still living. Tortured by the thought of losing contact with a friend or loved one, the undead may seek out that individual and, out of love, may attempt to turn its beloved into a spawn. If the attempt is successful, the loved one joins the ranks of the undead, but the bond between the two of them is now artificially enforced by the nature of the creation. The “loved one” now exists in a horrible position of compulsory affection.

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Mr Hyde Jekyyl
 
PostPosted: Fri, Jul 24 2009, 22:17 PM 

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Only humanoids or monstrous humanoids can become vampires.

Or what Dwagin said....

*Shakes fist at*


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Dwagin
 
PostPosted: Fri, Jul 24 2009, 22:18 PM 

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HellScourge wrote:
Vampire is a template you add to a creature who became a Vampire, so, yes in theory it would be possible that there are Rat Vampires.

It can only be applied to himanoids though I think.


Not exactly, the template can be applied to Monstrous humanoids as well. There are such things as Vampire bats, rats, even Dragons, too.

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Dwagin
 
PostPosted: Fri, Jul 24 2009, 22:21 PM 

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Mr Hyde Jekyyl wrote:
Only humanoids or monstrous humanoids can become vampires.

Or what Dwagin said....

*Shakes fist at*


*Shakes fist back.* >.>

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Morene Armande
 
PostPosted: Fri, Jul 24 2009, 22:43 PM 

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All I really wanted was this question answered, the other stuff I already knew was unnecessary and I made this thread quickly for a small question, not extremely detailed to please all the gods of a thousand worlds... It seems some people didn't get what I meant anyway, but thanks to those who helped and answered the questions.
If everything's spelled wrong and makes no sense I haven't slept in like a thousand years and I'm dead inside. I probably won't remember ever writing any of this when I wake up, so please keep this thread ooopenz

:oops:


 
      
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PostPosted: Fri, Jul 24 2009, 23:14 PM 

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Morene Armande wrote:
I'm dead inside

You're half way there. :wink:

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PostPosted: Sat, Jul 25 2009, 0:45 AM 

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Basically, if you're killed by a vampire's energy drain you de and come back as a spawn d4 days later.
If your Con is reduced to 0 by Blood Drain you rise as a vampire spawn if you have under 5 HD, and vampire if you have 5 HD or more.
Either way you're still a slave of the vampire that created you. The vampire may voluntarily free you of this slavery.

This is all from the 3.5 Monster Manual.

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