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Worst possible build
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Author:  Commie [ Sun, May 28 2017, 20:58 PM ]
Post subject:  Worst possible build
After hearing about one of TormakSaber's "legacy" characters I asked myself if it could, with proper planning, be outdone. Can an accident be better then careful planning? What is mechanically the worst build on Amia?

Goal is to make a non functional character.
The less ab the better, the less ac the better.
Assume it gears "correctly" so no sabotage gear, has to be as bad as possible with correct gear choices.
Author:  robbi320 [ Sun, May 28 2017, 21:44 PM ]
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Don't forget the importance of initiative. And how good dirty fighting is. Maybe high cha on a non-cha-user... (wis is will save, int is skill points, cha does nothing) prolly 18 con, 16 wis, 1 bard at level one, rest wizard. Metamagics are important when you have 8 int. (if you can take them then) But I really think there isn't much to get lower. 14 BAB, I think 10 dex, no uncanny, 92 base hp. 8 str and con. No idea for gear, but I'm not sure how to make that any better.

And, you'll want many Great Charisma.
Author:  Commie [ Sun, May 28 2017, 21:46 PM ]
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I would do barb level one with six int then 19 wizard, rest of epic being barbarian. Would pick the hell hound familiar which iirc is useless.

All charisma and charisma feats and epic reputation.
Author:  robbi320 [ Sun, May 28 2017, 21:50 PM ]
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Why barbarian? You get one more AB, amd get the benefit of the rages (very short duration, but still more than what wizzy gets) 12 hp per level, and armor and weapon prof. Wizard gets you more feats, which you will toss into useless feats though.
Author:  Commie [ Sun, May 28 2017, 21:56 PM ]
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Lower caster level, mostly. Weaker familiar so it can't solo things (the skelly with 25+ wiz is really good and I don't want that as an option).
Author:  robbi320 [ Sun, May 28 2017, 22:09 PM ]
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Well, at 8 (or 6) int, CL doesn't matter. And I see a familar as worth less than the hp, especially when we are saying you should take hellhound.
Author:  TormakSaber [ Sun, May 28 2017, 22:10 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Worst possible build
10 wiz 10 druid 10 bard, start as bard so you have to go 11 cha, but only raise dex - you'll only get level 1 bard spells, won't have enough charisma or perform to have a decent bard song, and will have no use from wizard or druid, and you don't have built in evasion to take advantage of the dex

take both raven familiars to be edgy
Author:  robbi320 [ Sun, May 28 2017, 22:11 PM ]
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But AC...
Author:  Commie [ Sun, May 28 2017, 22:28 PM ]
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Ac is king
Author:  TormakSaber [ Sun, May 28 2017, 22:35 PM ]
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i gues you could raise CON instead to not get AC from dex or AB from potential finesse, yeah
Author:  Gribbo [ Sun, May 28 2017, 22:45 PM ]
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Make it an earth genasi so you have 9 cha and seven wis

Put your first three stat points into wis and int for 9 in both
Author:  TormakSaber [ Sun, May 28 2017, 22:51 PM ]
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damn i didn't even consider that

then you even bag a weakness to Banishment
Author:  Commie [ Sun, May 28 2017, 22:56 PM ]
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I always knew planetouched were the worst.
Author:  Tarnus [ Mon, May 29 2017, 18:36 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Worst possible build
Make a human wizard, start at 11 int, use damaran as a subrace only level wizard, put everything else into charisma, rest in dex.
Author:  Commie [ Mon, May 29 2017, 18:39 PM ]
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I'd do wisdom over dex as you get will save vs ac and reflex.
Author:  Budly [ Wed, May 31 2017, 0:31 AM ]
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This is probably something I have a chance at! Budly was a horrid build. All by me. I have a few ideas of really shitty builds.
Author:  DukeDublin [ Tue, Oct 03 2017, 18:19 PM ]
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Half-Orc Fire Genasi Split Mage Levels

No spells, no hp, no shield, no bab, cant even talk.

Focus on Sorc, since even with added charisma you won't know spells.
Author:  Mushidoz [ Thu, Oct 12 2017, 16:31 PM ]
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Just gonna chime in to say the worst possible character would need to be wizard + sorcerer, elf, with lots of strength and negative constitution (and bare minimum in cha / int)

I used to play an elf sorcerer character for fun that was sorcerer. She was a very sickly character, and I would gain 1 or 2 hp per level (making sure I scored the lowest possible gain on her levels) and I recall that being incredibly challenging to play (yet doable.. because casters..). If going for a challenge of making the suckiest character ever, this here is a very good start.
Author:  robbi320 [ Thu, Oct 12 2017, 17:20 PM ]
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That's an amusing idea as well, yeah. 30 hp at level 20, lol. (at least with wizzy) I think even with going int, you'll die very, -very- quickly. It's like a single hit from... anything.

Also, I just found a new beauty for that. Fey'ri would even be outsider, so it would be dismissed as well. (not that it makes a difference at 30 hp, but well...)
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