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Author:  Shadowfiend [ Wed, Sep 30 2015, 15:00 PM ]
Post subject:  Questions about cleric

So I am planning to make a drow cleric, and I got no idea how to really build one.
What I have come up with though is that my starting stats should be something like this:

Strength 14
Dexterity 10
Constitution 10
Intelligence 14
Wisdom 16
Charisma 14

And ending stats should be something like this:
Wisdom 20
Charisma 16

Classes as a +2 race should be Cleric 23, Figher 4, rogue 1. The popular idea seems apparently to use the fighter lvls between 16-20, but then I won't get maximized strength and I won't get epic weapon spec. So I was thinking 3 fighter lvls pre 20, and 1 at lvl 27 or 28 I think to be able to get both specialization feats.

Other feats should be power attack, divine might, divine power, weapon focus, weapon impr crit, combat casting and extended casting?

Epic feats should be: epic wep focus, greater wisdom, weapon spec and epic weapon spec?

Am I doing anything super wrong yet? or is there better solutions out there?

Author:  Anatida [ Wed, Sep 30 2015, 15:02 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions about cleric

The reasons people take 4 fighter pre-20 is because cleric is a 3/4 BAB progression. In order to get the 4 attacks per round you have to have 4 fighter levels before lvl 20. The rest really depends on how you plan to play the cleric. The question to ask yourself, is it melee or spell focused?

Author:  Shadowfiend [ Wed, Sep 30 2015, 15:17 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions about cleric

Melee focused.

Author:  Raua [ Wed, Sep 30 2015, 15:41 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions about cleric

I built something similar for humans, if you were attempting to make a drow that's a different story, though. Here's how I would alter it. Personally, I'm not that fond of it, but it can't hurt to offer input >.>;

Drow-thingytodowithllolthorsomeshit wrote:

Drow

Cleric 23 / Fighter 4 / Rogue 1

Pre-epic Class spread Cleric 16 / Fighter 4
Take Rogue level at 27

Ability Scores:
STR: 14
DEX: 10
CON: 12
WIS: 15 (Ending 20 Level ups 4,8,12,16, & 20)
INT: 14
CHA: 16 (Ending 18 Level ups 24 & 28)

Feats:
1 Power attack
3 Extra Turning
6 Extend Spell
9 Divine Might
12 Divine Shield
15 Improved Critical
18 Extra Turning
21 Epic Weapon Focus
24 Epic Spell: Mummy Dust or Greater Ruin
27 FREE


Fighter bonus:
1 Weapon Focus
2 Blind-fight
4 Weapon Specialization

Cleric Bonus:
23: Armor Skin

Skills:
Discipline: 22
Concentration: 31
Spellcraft 31
Tumble 30
+ 23(If my math is right) Bonus points to spend as you wish


Personally, I don't like how this one stacks up, because of your lack of discipline, though if you chose to be a Lawful alignment, you can take a monk level instead of rogue to get more Discipline, (And evasion!) For lack of UMD, Or you could use a bard level to get Discipline, tumble and UMD.

On a +2 ECL race, these types of builds can get thorny because there's a few things to keep in mind:

23 Cleric minimum
4 Fighter levels Pre-epic minimum
EWS over 4 APR?
Epic Spells?
Ability score boosting feats?

Which kinda leaves your options sparse. Especially with the lack of EWS, but In my opinion 4 Attacks per round > +4 Damage, but that's a personal choice.

EDIT: *Cof* Typos :oops:

Author:  Shadowfiend [ Wed, Sep 30 2015, 15:46 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions about cleric

I forgot about bard, which solves my problem with how to use the fighter lvls, even though I lose epic weapon spec. Still don't know about the epic feats.

Author:  Raua [ Wed, Sep 30 2015, 16:01 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions about cleric

Make sure you aren't lawful! :D

Bard would be awesome because you can take it at level 28, and dump all your skills into it, just make sure you don't have any arcane buffs, they'll get wiped out by a dispel super quickly.

As for Epic feats, I personally would try to get Armor skin, an epic skill focus, epic weapon and an epic spell.

Author:  Shadowfiend [ Wed, Sep 30 2015, 17:48 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions about cleric

Can you take armor skin as an epic feat as cleric?

Author:  Raua [ Wed, Sep 30 2015, 17:50 PM ]
Post subject:  Re: Questions about cleric

Yup! It's a cleric bonus Epic feat!

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