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| Author: | dinosaur [ Thu, Sep 17 2015, 18:26 PM ] |
| Post subject: | PL/Ftr/CoT archer |
heres what i have 21 paladin 2 COT 6 Fighter Asimar Str 14 Dex 16 (22) Con 8 Int 10 Wis 16 Cha 16 (18) 1 - Pointbalnk shot/rapid fire 3- power attack 6 - Divine might 9 - Improved crit 12- Extend Spell 15 - Divine Shield 16 (fighter1) - Weapon focus 17 - Blind fight 18 - (16 Paladin) - Extra Turning (pre epic 16 palaldin 1 COT 3 Fighter, choosing this combination primarily for Save bonuses) 21 - EWF/WS 22 - Great Cha (CoT) 24 - EWS 27 - Called shot AB = 41/53 unbuffed/buffed AC 41-67 depending on shield use buffs gear etc. Skillz taunt, tumble (cross class) 35 damage/hit 5apr 6 with haste Anything obviously wrong or could be tweaked |
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| Author: | Silkelock [ Thu, Sep 17 2015, 19:32 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Divine Archer |
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| Author: | Raua [ Thu, Sep 17 2015, 21:55 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Divine Archer |
dinosaur wrote: heres what i have 21 paladin 2 COT 6 Fighter Asimar Str 14 Dex 16 (22) Con 8 Int 10 Wis 16 Cha 16 (18) 1 - Pointbalnk shot/rapid fire 3- power attack 6 - Divine might 9 - Improved crit 12- Extend Spell 15 - Divine Shield 16 (fighter1) - Weapon focus 17 - Blind fight 18 - (16 Paladin) - Extra Turning (pre epic 16 palaldin 1 COT 3 Fighter, choosing this combination primarily for Save bonuses) 21 - EWF/WS 22 - Great Cha (CoT) 24 - EWS 27 - Called shot AB = 41/53 unbuffed/buffed AC 41-67 depending on shield use buffs gear etc. Skillz taunt, tumble (cross class) 35 damage/hit 5apr 6 with haste Anything obviously wrong or could be tweaked Ooookay, Here's my take on it, following what seems to be the concept! First off. That's a lot of dex without any Uncanny dodge! So, I would recommend having at least 3 Rogue levels! What'cha think?~ |
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| Author: | Opustus [ Fri, Sep 18 2015, 3:00 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Divine Archer |
Gimping DEX and ditching Toughness for Zen Archery might be favourable, but it doesn't really matter as Pally spell slots are kind of useless. But yerp, Raua's version is definitely the polished version. |
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| Author: | dinosaur [ Fri, Sep 18 2015, 6:31 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PL/Ftr/CoT archer |
i'm missing EWS/called shot and extra turning from this? with 53ab called shot is probably better than Armour Skin? except in pvp where the opposition has epic discipline gloves is there an item i can find extra turning? i can do without +4 damage from EWS but... 14 dex 15(17aasimar) cha is better all round as it also allows 14str with same finishing stats? Paladin spell slots are 1.Divine favour/ pfe/ occasional bless wepaon 2.Extend divine favour/Extend bless/ 3.Extend Aid/Extend eagles/extend bulls/prayer 4.DW/ extend freedom/ extend prayer the more slots i have the AB/Damage spells i can slot/rest. wisdom gear is switched in and out to get long lasting disposable none ab/damage spell slots. i think i would drop divine shield, toughness and armour skin if i went this way and give up the option to tank or go zen for all of the spell slots one other point? uncanny dodge will save me dex AC sure but...loosing Dodge and tumble is much worse than dex especially for dvine shield builds...point being uncanny dodge wont save me unless the attackers AB is pathetic |
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| Author: | Raua [ Fri, Sep 18 2015, 6:47 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PL/Ftr/CoT archer |
No.. You should still get EWS. There was a typo in my post. The second Epic Weapon focus should say "specialization" >.> You could also easily swap Blind-fight for called shot and Toughness for Extra turning if you wished. What I posted was meant to be a guideline. Spell slots for a paladin really aren't worth taking the extra wisdom, from my experience, at all. Usually the bonus slots can come from items. The 18 Charisma is so that you can have at maximum 30, which is a nice rounded +10 AC/Damage for 1 rounds with your divine might/Shield. I took from Strength so you could have more intelligence, which would give you more skill points, and when most of your classes are 2+ int mod, you're going to need it for Tumble, Discipline, UMD, and anything else, really. Just my look on it. |
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| Author: | dinosaur [ Fri, Sep 18 2015, 7:23 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PL/Ftr/CoT archer |
but you cant EWS without first taking WS which you don't have room for prepic  and in fact haven't listedmy variant still get 18cha (same finishing stats as your build just +1 str over your idea cause of better distribution at creation) certainly i can see the lure of more skillz and thanks for the input |
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| Author: | Raua [ Fri, Sep 18 2015, 7:41 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Divine Archer |
Looks pretty listed there to me Raua wrote: Fighter bonus: 1) Rapid Shot 2) Blind-fight 4) Weapon Specialization: Longbow But yes! Do what you like~ |
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| Author: | dinosaur [ Fri, Sep 18 2015, 21:54 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PL/Ftr/CoT archer |
STR: 13----------------------------------14 DEX: 13 (Ending 20, All level-ups)-----14+6 (20) CON: 8------------------------------------8 INT: 14-----------------------------------14 WIS: 12 (14 With Subrace!)------------12 (14) CHA: 16 (18 With Subrace!)------------15 (17) +1 (18) Paladin: 21 Fighter: 5 Rogue: 3 Pre-epic: Paladin 16 / Fighter 4 Epic Progression: 21-23, Paladin / 24, Fighter / 25-27, Rogue / 28-29, Paladin Feats: 1) Power Attack, Point-blank Shot 3) Weapon Focus: Longbow 6) Toughness -------------Extra turn 9) Divine Might 12) Divine Shield 15) Improved Critical: Longbow 18) Extend Spell 21) Epic Weapon Focus: Longbow 24) (Fighter 5) Epic Weapon Specialisation: Longbow 27) Armor Skin----------called shot Fighter bonus: 1) Rapid Shot 2) Blind-fight 4) Weapon Specialization: Longbow right reread your post, sorry missed the typo first time round, do my questions make more sense now? rearranged stats in a way i'm certain you would approve. question is called shot vs armour skin and toughness vs extra turning |
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| Author: | Raua [ Fri, Sep 18 2015, 22:05 PM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PL/Ftr/CoT archer |
If you're adamant about Called shot, I'd suggest taking it over Blind-fight (Don't Crucify me!) as one of your Fighter bonuses. I'd say don't waste an epic feat on it, if you can! Extra turning over toughness is fine: It's either +30 Hitpoints or +6 Uses of Divine Might/Shield, Go with what you prefer! Your Stat Adjustment is fine. They give the end result, so it doesn't matter  And hey, this is your character concept! I'm just here to give you my suggestion on how to build it. So long as you're happy with the end result, it's all good~ |
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| Author: | Solvaras [ Sat, Sep 19 2015, 11:35 AM ] |
| Post subject: | Re: PL/Ftr/CoT archer |
Dont worry too much about called shot. It's on a few items and armor skin is a better feat in epic. As for toughness or extra turning, I would go with extra turning. If you're in a situation where you're getting hit, 30 hit points is not much. 6 minutes more of divine goodies is worth it. |
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