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What's actand, Why is it here, where do all the outsiders come from and what the hell are they doing to eachother for what purpose?

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What's actand, Why is it here, where do all the outsiders come from and what the hell are they doing to eachother for what purpose?

You'd be better off attempting to search IC and giving the chance for DM's to actually develop a decent narrative for the place rather than inquiring a comprehensive story outright. In other words, an IC quest to find out would be better for everyone rather than dissolving all chances at a neat story by spelling it out on the spot.

soo..... fallowing Svensk.... why is it even there?

Not going to develop a story narrative for a place I don't even think should be there.

Okaaaaay...

So what then? Is actand going to be a blop on the map with no explanation?

Bloody remove it then.

I simply feel that a battle between angels and demons in a scripted area that happens over and over and over again with no change hurts the server's image as a place for serious and reasonable rp.

I know mindflayers kind of lost the "oh shit" factor because we kill so many of them, same with beholders, they are still some of the stronger monsters on Amia but if you run into one say for a plot and are trying to strike fear into someone it wont have the same effect as say some type of monster you have never seen and killed 10000 times befor.

To be fair, it does have an oblique tie-in with the established lore of another area, but that was kind of a slap of paint after the fact. The reason I will not come up with a story for this is thay no matter how you approach it, it will be contrived and offend my sensibilities as an artist, and also because I simply feel that a battle between angels and demons in a scripted area that happens over and over and over again with no change hurts the server's image as a place for serious and reasonable rp.

You or any other DM can still be as much as an artist as you want, if you're willing to accept working on a rather shallow canvas. And having a PC that is keenly interested in the area, I'm sure there are plenty of others that would be willing to take a turn at shifting the balance once and for all as well!

I felt the same way when we had the Manor right outside Kholingen. City full of clergy can't take care of the Dawn of the Dead happening in their own backyard. I understand it was there for lowbie level good aligned classes and whatnot. But we see how that got resolved, right? It will continue to give a weird image to the server until someone steps in and makes a satisfactory story that concludes it.

The manor actually was in Kohlingen, just not the city proper. The farmlands to the west are still part of them. But I think DI was referring to the fact that the manor was just chilling there for years before the clergy finally took care of it. Logically you wouldn't think something like that would last a year next to a city full of divine-backed do-gooders. At the same time, though, separate issue haha.

To be fair, it does have an oblique tie-in with the established lore of another area, but that was kind of a slap of paint after the fact.

Seperate issue indeed, but you'd think that the Cordor sewers wouldn't have zombies either, etc, etc. I don't think it's a bad thing, personally. I think it adds a good feeling for new PC's, or new players on the server, and for the most part, most players seem to ignore the plot anyways.

One could rationalize that every single time you complete a quest in which you wiped out all of the proponents, that it should be unavailable for the next person because ICly they wouldn't exist. (In this case, you mentioned the clergy finally taking care of it), but I personally feel that some things should just be allowed to slide/be eternal in the cosmos, as long as it has a well documented back story and is potentially the source of a fun adventure for the people who are supposed to be in that area.

Just wait until I custom script them.

Bring on the crazy hard dungeon to replace it. (casualties? -Expected.)