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Glim
 
PostPosted: Sun, Aug 05 2012, 4:10 AM 

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Seems to me there's an actual prestige class or some such for these in FR. Anyone know if this is so or if I'm just going crazy? And if such a thing does exist, and sources would be most welcome please.


 
      
NinjaClarinet
 
PostPosted: Sun, Aug 05 2012, 4:14 AM 



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dungeon master's guide, but it's pretty vague. I'll look through my stash and see if there's anything more.


 
      
Halecta
 
PostPosted: Sun, Aug 05 2012, 4:25 AM 

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All i know is a death knight is a warrior cursed with undeath usually by a god, and they are bound to a specific location.

Lord Soth is probably the most famous Death Knight


 
      
NinjaClarinet
 
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For some reason, I completely misread the topic as blackguard. Let me try again :P


 
      
NinjaClarinet
 
PostPosted: Sun, Aug 05 2012, 4:41 AM 



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Page 207 of Monster Manual II for official info, I'll keep looking for "extra" lore.


 
      
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PostPosted: Sun, Aug 05 2012, 4:44 AM 

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looked it up and found it on page 207 of Monster Manual II but really no lore information just stats and junk

when I googled it, it seems it was in alot of stuff http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_knig ... 26_Dragons)

also did some major AFKing for digging and found this link you might like http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx ... /20071003a

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NinjaClarinet
 
PostPosted: Sun, Aug 05 2012, 5:06 AM 



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Best supplementary information I could find is from Dragon Magazine #360: http://www.wizards.com/DnD/Article.aspx ... /20071003a

Unfortunately, it's primarily 4th ed, but Dms can make anything canon they want ;)


 
      
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Ninjaed.


 
      
Ravenovf
 
PostPosted: Sun, Aug 05 2012, 19:45 PM 

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Death Knight was a template, one that was so broken letting a PC have it was kinda unwise. Death Knights are among the top end nasty undead things in the world, inspired by the ultra bad-ass that was the Dragonlance, and later Ravenloft settings, Lord Soth.

Its nastier then a lich and considerably more difficult to become. Either you have to betray or anger a god in some huge epic way to get cursed, like letting personal jealousy keep you from stopping a world wide cataclysm, or be ultra favored by a dark god. At least that's how its described more or less in the books.


 
      
TormakSaber
 
PostPosted: Mon, Aug 06 2012, 17:47 PM 

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Not really true outside Dragonlance lore. In standard DnD Death Knights are basically the fighter/blackguard version of liches. Still powerful but not spellcaster,s tended towards melee rather than magic. That said, if in life adeath knight could cast magic, it still can as undead.

Lich is a far more powerful template.

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Ravenovf
 
PostPosted: Mon, Aug 06 2012, 17:57 PM 

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Well Lich is in ways due to the arcane requirements, I dunno maybe its my experience with death knights and the powers the template grants in 3.5 that makes them feel more broken and powerful in play.


 
      
TormakSaber
 
PostPosted: Mon, Aug 06 2012, 18:56 PM 

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Lich gives you conditional immortality, immunity to 2 elements, a high turn resistance a paralyzing touch, stat boosts and more.

Death Knight gives you stat boosts and immunity to turning, the same elemental resists and pretty high SR.

They're pretty comparable but I'd take immunity to true death as long as your pretty box is around, vs. unable to be turned, as well as a powerful paralyzation touch.

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PostPosted: Tue, Aug 07 2012, 17:25 PM 

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Ravenovf wrote:
Well Lich is in ways due to the arcane requirements


Should just mention that any caster, divine or arcane, can become a lich. Wizard/Sorcerer ones are just more common.

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PostPosted: Fri, Aug 10 2012, 17:27 PM 

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Not cannon but:

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Death Knight
“There is no horror you have known that can prepare you for what I am about to reveal.”

Those who take up the black sword of the Death Knights in the name of powerful evil gods are not all undead. They aren’t even all evil, since sometimes evil gods simply curse warriors in order to screw with them. But a lot of them are evil and undead, and that gives the Death Knight his classic image.

Prerequisites:
BAB: +6
Skills: Knowledge (Religion) 4 ranks
Special: Must have proficiency with all martial weapons.
Special: Must have had nonviolent contact with a Fiend.

Hit Die: d12

Class Skills: The Death Knight’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Climb (Str), Concentration (Con), Craft (Int), Intimidate (Cha), Jump (Str), Knowledge (all skills individually) (Int), Listen (Wis), Move Silently (Dex), Spot (Wis), Swim (Str). Skills/Level: 4 + Intelligence Bonus

Level Base Attack Bonus Fort Save Ref Save Will Save Special
1st +1 +0 +0 +2 Sword of Death, Life and Death
2nd +2 +0 +0 +3 Army of the Dead
3rd +3 +1 +1 +3 Sphere: Bone
4th +4 +1 +1 +4 Bonus Feat
5th +5 +1 +1 +4 Sphere: Fire

All of the following are Class Features of the Death Knight class.

Weapon and Armor Proficiency: The Death Knight gains no proficiency with armor or weapons.

Sword of Death (Su): A Death Knight can transform his blade into a black instrument of destruction. His melee attacks inflict 2d6 of Unholy damage against living creatures.

Life and Death: A Death Knight can transform himself into a Vampire, Ghoul, Revenant, or Swordwraith if he chooses either upon becoming a Death Knight or at some later date. Rules for being these undead creatures are found in the Tome of Necromancy. In addition, a Death Knight may qualify for and use Necromantic Feats using his Base Attack Bonus instead of a caster level.

Army of the Dead (Su): A 2nd level Death Knight may raise undead as per animate dead or create undead with a caster level equal to his hit dice.

Spheres: At 3rd level, a Death Knight gains the Sphere of Bone. At 5th level, he gains the Sphere of Fire.

Bonus Feat: At 4th level a Death Knight gains a bonus feat. This may be any [Combat] feat or [Fiend] feat he meets the prerequisites for.

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